Forscan changes - tweak your truck

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Makes me wonder even more now if 1 is just noise canceling and no fake engine. And 2 is both.
Not sure if it's different on '18 Raptors but on '15-'17 F150 the ANC=Fake Engine Noise

727-01-01 xxxx x*xx xxxx
0=FT absent & CS : North American & ANC absent & USB absent
1=FT absent & CS : North American & ANC absent & USB present
2=FT absent & CS : North American & ANC present & USB absent
 

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the "0" is what worked for me on my 2018 to turn it off.

Liv...never really understood the various codes. FT = front tweeters, CS = chime strategy, is ANC = automatic noise cancelling (which is just Fords nice way of maybe saying noise cancelling PLUS fake engine noise) or is the fake engine noise wrapped up in the USB code...like not really Universal Serial Bus but something to do with engine rumble thru the sub?? Just doesn't make sense to me as it would seem that we all have front tweeters in our trucks...so why wouldn't we be using codes 8 thru B ?? Just wondering aloud but would love any insight you can share.


I now see some articles referring to ANC as active noise cancellation and active noise control (which makes sense)...and most Ford discussions include the addition of engine noise in that system. Hmmmm??? maybe time for more testing. Need that guy that did the noise sweeps of the audio spectrum to help decipher.
 
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pasting from the other Forum (F150):

The F150 only has ENE (engine noise enhancement) aka ESE (engine sound enhancement) versus ANC (advance noise cancellation). They are basically the opposite of each other.

ESE - 2.7L GTDI And 3.5L GTDI With Satellite Radio Only

ESE is an audio system feature that enhances certain engine tones typically induced under wide open throttle or heavy part-throttle conditions. The system uses a DACMC (contained within the ACM) and the audio system speakers.

The DACMC determines the engine tone to enhance based upon engine rotation speed data, engine torque data, and accelerator pedal position data from the PCM. The data from the PCM is processed and converted into an analog audio signal, transmitted to the DACMC internal tone generator, and output by the ACM to the LHF and RHF door midwoofer speakers as fluctuating AC voltage.

The ESE feature can be disabled (or re-enabled after disabling) through the use of programmable parameters and a diagnostic scan tool. For more information,
Refer to: Module Configuration - System Operation and Component Description (418-01 Module Configuration, Description and Operation).
See Module Configuration and Parameter Chart.

[or similarly]

Here is how ANC works in vehicles equipped with it (pulled from 16 Edge Service Manual):

ANC

ANC is an audio system feature that eliminates a certain range of low frequency engine noise within the passenger compartment typically induced under wide open throttle or heavy part-throttle conditions. The system uses 3 microphones, a DACMC (contained within the ACM), and the audio system speakers. The DACMC determines the noise frequency to be canceled based upon engine rotation speed data, engine torque data, and accelerator pedal position data from the PCM, as well as microphone input signals.

The ANC microphones are located in the headliner and monitor the engine noise resonating in the passenger compartment. The microphones transmit this noise as analog signals to the DACMC (contained within the ACM), where they are converted into digital signals by the integrated analog/digital converter. The digital signals are processed and an inverted phase sound wave with the same amplitude as the original sound is created. This new sound is converted into an analog audio signal, transmitted to the DACMC internal tone generator, and output by the ACM to the audio DSP module as fluctuating AC voltage. The audio DSP module sends the signal to the LHF door speaker, RHF door speaker, and subwoofer speaker as fluctuating AC voltage.
 

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pasting from the other Forum (F150):

The F150 only has ENE (engine noise enhancement) aka ESE (engine sound enhancement) versus ANC (advance noise cancellation). They are basically the opposite of each other.

ESE - 2.7L GTDI And 3.5L GTDI With Satellite Radio Only

ESE is an audio system feature that enhances certain engine tones typically induced under wide open throttle or heavy part-throttle conditions. The system uses a DACMC (contained within the ACM) and the audio system speakers.

The DACMC determines the engine tone to enhance based upon engine rotation speed data, engine torque data, and accelerator pedal position data from the PCM. The data from the PCM is processed and converted into an analog audio signal, transmitted to the DACMC internal tone generator, and output by the ACM to the LHF and RHF door midwoofer speakers as fluctuating AC voltage.

The ESE feature can be disabled (or re-enabled after disabling) through the use of programmable parameters and a diagnostic scan tool. For more information,
Refer to: Module Configuration - System Operation and Component Description (418-01 Module Configuration, Description and Operation).
See Module Configuration and Parameter Chart.

[or similarly]

Here is how ANC works in vehicles equipped with it (pulled from 16 Edge Service Manual):

ANC

ANC is an audio system feature that eliminates a certain range of low frequency engine noise within the passenger compartment typically induced under wide open throttle or heavy part-throttle conditions. The system uses 3 microphones, a DACMC (contained within the ACM), and the audio system speakers. The DACMC determines the noise frequency to be canceled based upon engine rotation speed data, engine torque data, and accelerator pedal position data from the PCM, as well as microphone input signals.

The ANC microphones are located in the headliner and monitor the engine noise resonating in the passenger compartment. The microphones transmit this noise as analog signals to the DACMC (contained within the ACM), where they are converted into digital signals by the integrated analog/digital converter. The digital signals are processed and an inverted phase sound wave with the same amplitude as the original sound is created. This new sound is converted into an analog audio signal, transmitted to the DACMC internal tone generator, and output by the ACM to the audio DSP module as fluctuating AC voltage. The audio DSP module sends the signal to the LHF door speaker, RHF door speaker, and subwoofer speaker as fluctuating AC voltage.

Good find bfr. So what's the deal with raptors? Even if we turn on ANC in forscan, do we not have the microphones in the sun visors for ANC to work?

ANC is what I am after - hence I created the other thread asking.
 

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Just doesn't make sense to me as it would seem that we all have front tweeters in our trucks...so why wouldn't we be using codes 8 thru B ?? Just wondering aloud but would love any insight you can share.

It depends on whether your system uses a DSP or not. For example mine is the Sony system so my value there in ACM says front tweeter disabled since the DSP is outputting the signal instead of the ACM. This is my understanding but I'm by no means any audio expert.
 

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Ok I need help I have the software downloaded and downloaded the driver for the obd 2 reader and I keep getting no elm found ..... how do I fix this ? I am using this adaptor and downloaded the driver they said to in the instructions


https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01N18TOFB/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1513821819&sr=8-4&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65&keywords=forscan&dpPl=1&dpID=41NJ0J642FL&ref=plSrch

Or if anyone in upstate NY can just help me do changes I’ll pay you
 

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Ok I need help I have the software downloaded and downloaded the driver for the obd 2 reader and I keep getting no elm found ..... how do I fix this ? I am using this adaptor and downloaded the driver they said to in the instructions


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N18TOFB/?tag=fordraptorforum-20

Or if anyone in upstate NY can just help me do changes I’ll pay you


Did you reboot the computer after installing the driver? I've tested that same adapter using this driver: http://totalcardiagnostics.com.s3.amazonaws.com/CH340-USB-Driver.zip

After installing the driver, reboot computer, plug in the adapter and then launch FORScan. In FORScan settings screen under "connection type" try choosing COM and then try connecting.
 

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Thanks finally got it working and was able to save all the original files and do the Lincoln gold
Mirrors in the time I had .... tonight I’ll be doing the rest of my changes

Second update .... went to finish my changes tonight and of course wouldn’t recognize the driver. So after ******* around for an hr got it working again and made all my changes .. numbers above gauges... seat and wheel on screen... Lincoln mirrors... battery monitor ... driver seat belt minder off(super annoying if off-roading/crawling with belt off) ... drl as just markers and turns ...double Honk off... secure idle ... everything seemed work fine just waiting till driving during the day to see if the drl changes worked
 
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My 17 Raptor 802A is at Ford for the seatbelt recall and I asked them to do the auto fold mirrors global windows and flash to the newest ECM flash, I talked to them a hour ago and they said they couldn’t do the mirrors or windows but did flash the ECM to the newest version. They said it was probably something you could turn on in the Platinum F150’s.


Are they full of shit? I was trying to avoid going and buying a laptop and obd2 plug to use ForScan.
 

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Are they full of shit? I was trying to avoid going and buying a laptop and obd2 plug to use ForScan.

Not really. When they hook up to your truck with IDS they go to programmable parameters for the vehicle IDS is hooked up to and for the F150s there is no option in there for them to enable autofold mirrors or global windows like they would see on something like an Explorer. Ford didn't intend for us to have autofold or global windows so that's why it's absent from their screen.

Technically they could've still done it through a manual entry as-built screen but unlike FORScan where we can quickly change a few values; they would be forced to manually enter every single value of every single address of the BCM, DDM, PDM modules (would take them a few hours) just to achieve what could be done in a few mins in FORScan. And they could only do this if they knew what values to change and unless you gave them the values, they'd be clueless what to change and to what.

** Note: I do believe finally on the 2018s that IDS will allow them to enable autofold but not prior year F150s.
 
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