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Falcon

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The first grand of miles is always an eye opener at the pumps. I'm expecting frequent fuel stops in 13 days when i pick mine up. When I was breaking in my .60 over Pontiac 400 I was getting 6-8mpgs at 50mph, it went upto 15 after 1500 miles...but at 120 mph+ dipped to 4. I'm lucky that my break in will be almost done in the first week alone. I live 300 miles from the dealer, and plan on driving it a few hundred the first day before returning home.

OK, I am almost afraid to ask <GG> ... but can one of you wizards explain to me how driving 1,500 miles gives a 10 mpg improvement? I know the computer is on a learning curve and all... but I would really appreciate one of you guys that actually understands this process would 'splain it to old Falcon. I mean I am sure that what Floppy and others have said is correct... I just be a bit confuzzeled on the "Why" part of it.

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not 100% sure but I think it has something to do with the pistons/seals wearing in...

everyting is too tight from the factory and the seals and gaskets are not 100% seated...

once eveything breaks in there is less friction and better sealing s less lost and wasted power and gas mileage...

My gm and dodge motors all picked up about 15 WHP over the first 5k miles
 

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frogslinger is right on the money,
Rings, bearings, cylinder walls, rocker arms, springs, rollers, push rods, valves, cams all these things add to friction in the engine. While new designs of roller rockers etc reduce the friction compared to old rockers, they still add an element of friction. When an engine is newly built to factory or B&B standards it is at its highest operating friction due to the close tolerances in these parts. The hardest start for an engine is its very first, as the rotating parts are tightest in their bearings, and the piston rings are as sharp as they will ever be (they will wear a section of the cylinder wall very slightly), and valve springs strongest of their life cycle.
Long as you follow the break in procedure you should see a noticeable improvement around 1500miles. Break in is very important as it will give you a more reliable and efficient engine. The best part of a new running engine is the oil system, filter and passages are clean, oil is at peak viscosity, and the pump flows its highest numbers. Its been about 10 years since I've been in the autoparts/engine business, but the rule then was not to use synthetic oils in any vehicle parts until 8K miles. you want the normal engine wear to get the engine to the designed operating tolerances. Do your first oil change at 500 miles and have them open up the oil filter and check for filings. A small amount (rub your finger on the paper/silicon part) of grit will be normal, large filings are abnormal cause for concern.
Ok I'm going a little long in the tooth here sorry. After 8k miles you should be safe to change to synthetic oil, trans fluid, and diff fluid that is of the same or similar weight.
I figure 90% of us on here know this stuff and have similar experiences, I'm sure some will tell of the 20 minute break in. Personally I dont like it for road vehicles that need to last, its fine for a race engine that will be rebuilt every 1500 miles but chances are its all forged parts.

Anyone hear of cryo dipping blocks anymore? I know it was a fad around 2000 for strengthening blocks.

Never use snake oils like pro-long etc. My Goat engine lasted about 100 miles after using it. When i tore the engine down the oil looked fine, but the next morning in the pan on the cold floor it had a hard waxy layer on top. the good side of it was "Hey the engine is out...lets add some parts!". I miss the simple climb under the hood with a foot on each side days of yore!
 

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I do not think the synthetic oil thing is accurate anymore Floppy...

plenty of cars use factory fill synthetic...

also synthetic is now a misnomer... there was a suit a few years ago that resulted in the term synthetic being designated a marketing not manufcturing term... so full synthetic means whatever he manufacturer says it means... about all of them are hyperpurified dino oil with molecules cracked to a more uniform length.
 

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right on frogslinger thanks. I've never used anything more than a synthetic blend as conventional oil has done the job for me just fine. Other than my "additive" failure its been happy lol.


12 days till delivery........My truck can't wait for me to drive it!
 

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So someone please barney it down for me! is synthetic oil better or not?
 

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<GG> Clear as mud!

Great inputs, I am still waiting for some of our Ford Master Mechanics to weigh in. You hear so many "Best Ways" over the years... of course I have my own opinon, but I am smart enough to know how ignorant I am... So I am watching this closely. You only get ONE break-in with a new vehicle... I want to do this one RIGHT.

And what about the Punkins and the Transmission... do they benefit from a break-in procedure as well?

By the way Floppy... what is your background? You appear to have forgotten more than I will ever learn about this stuff <G>.

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Ok Frogslinger, I think that I am just going to leave it to the pros on this subject. Besides, my break-n will start in July when i get home. Thank you everyone for being so informative and professional on this matter. It has been a great help reading the information on this subject!!! :)

Have a great RAPTOR day all.
 
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