Don't tell the Gen. 1 guys I'm over here.....

[Truckasaurus]

Dude, you seriously tried to paper-race the G1 against the G2 by comparing sandbagged numbers off a modded G2 vs a hypothetical, best-case FW numbers off a heavily-modded G1, to get a #/HP that allowed you to claim “victory”.

Everyone saw that.

You’re right that you’re “dealing with facts”.

The only unequivocal fact to come out of your posts is that everyone (as in every single person) who will ever come read this thread, throughout the perpetuity of the interwebs, will feel like they just watched a 13 year-old Jewish boy step up to the stat table in a ****-measuring contest, throw down a pack of Trojan Magnums, and ask that the numbers on the box be recorded for his entry.

WTF are you talking about? I used 700 and 525. Those are both rated fly wheel numbers from Shelby and Roush. Use the 550/450 WHP numbers if you like. The Gen 2 still falls short.

I'm also not internet racing. I am telling you a tuned Gen 2 has no chance in the real world, as observed on many occasions.

Great trucks guys. Just really, really small engines.

Tiny.

 

[Kashoggio]

WTF are you talking about? I used 700 and 525. Those are both rated fly wheel numbers from Shelby and Roush. Use the 550/450 WHP numbers if you like. The Gen 2 still falls short.

I'm also not internet racing. I am telling you a tuned Gen 2 has no chance in the real world, as observed on many occasions.

Great trucks guys. Just really, really small engines.

Tiny.

Dude let it go.. every time we see one of your posts it’s the gen 2 lacks to gen 1 followed by “ great truck guys”. If you are not a troll stop acting like one.

 

[Truckasaurus]

Dude let it go.. every time we see one of your posts it’s the gen 2 lacks to gen 1 followed by “ great truck guys”. If you are not a troll stop acting like one.

Let what go? Facts? Why?

 

[Truckasaurus]

Guys. Seriously. Post of some Full Race big turbo kit dyno charts. I would like to see them! No one ever posts any. Ever.

Also post some 4.2 stroker motor dyno charts. I really want to see those, too. They don't seem to exist.

Show me what the Gen 2 can do.

Just do me a favor. Don't argue that a 450 whp truck is faster than a 550+ whp truck because unicorn farts.

That's just silly. And it makes you look silly.​

 

[Dustan]

I’m sure valuable info for the OP! Wrong thread?

I was trying to be subtle but the tiny little 3.5 in the GT makes 600 hp in stock form

 

[Truckasaurus]

I was trying to be subtle but the tiny little 3.5 in the GT makes 600 hp in stock form

It does. But it also has a different block, crank, rods, pistons, heads, cams, turbos, oiling system, etc.

A number of us have looked into trying to obtain these parts with no luck.

Can you help?

 

[Deleted member 17706]

I want to know what Ford’s profit margin is on a $38k oil pump.

 

[Truckasaurus]

I want to know what Ford’s profit margin is on a $38k oil pump.

I would assume that is the dry sump oiling system / engine block that Ford paid Roush-Yates a lot of money to produce but who knows.

Bottom line. The Raptor 3.5 and the Ford GT 3.5 are not the same engine. Not even close.

 

[Dustan]

If cost is no object that sounds like a good starting point for a high horsepower 3.5. I’m completely happy with my Cobb stage 2 set up, it’s an off-road truck on 35’s. Not a Ford GT!

 

[Truckasaurus]

If cost is no object that sounds like a good starting point for a high horsepower 3.5. I’m completely happy with my Cobb stage 2 set up, it’s an off-road truck on 35’s. Not a Ford GT!

High cost for sure. But I wouldn't really consider 647 to be high horsepower.