Do me a favor, please just run 93 or at least 91 in your new Raptor

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Huh.

http://www.fordraptorforum.com/f261/personally-i-can-always-have-more-power-52718/index2.html

I'm sure that your problem is the fuel, not yer tune.

So you preach about ruining your engine with low octane fuel, but...

When the truck was new, it very specifically said you could run 87, I tried it, and did not have good luck.

When the truck was less new, I put a tuner on it, with 87, tow, and 91 tunes. on the 91 tune, I ran only 91.

The only time I ever had trouble with that truck was when I first got it and tried 87.

I would not have tried 87 with a 91 map.

So, your comment is baseless, and incorrect.
 

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Watch as Ford dealers put out a notice to increase the octane of your gas. It's a high compression twin turbo engine, yes you need 90+ octane gas. You'll see..

Until then I'll just watch the people with knocking and hesitation problems try to diagnose it..

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Assuming you put 100k miles on your truck before you sell it.. it will cost you between $1800-$3000 over the lifetime if it costs you $12 mode per tank.

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Heavy acceleration on 87 octane

happened a few times, the worst time it went into limp mode, switched to 91+ and never had it happen again over 80k miles

While your previous experience may, or may not be informative, you’re making some assumptions and some of them may eventually be borne out, but some of them may also be disproven. You may not have a fuel problem per se, you may have regional additives to the fuel that are ******** up the burn, or you could have defective knock sensors. Or both.

I’ve run nothing but 87 in my Raptor since I got it, and there has been no babying. I have not been shy about throttle. This will be my 3rd unnaturally aspirated vehicle, and while there’s always a chance of bad gas, there’s also a chance you could stumble upon a vehicle with a bad knock sensor(s). I was skeptical that the truck would run on 87 unleashed in anger, but I’ve not had a hint of issue.

As others have posted here, the manual gives you the --minimum-- octane level to use. The truck should run properly on this grade of fuel and if it doesn’t, that’s why there’s a warranty. Now, if you mod the truck, no matter how minor you might think it is, you should budget for higher octane fuel. If it’s in the manual, you can bet the Ford tested that requirement from Alaska in the winter to the Mojave desert and everything in between including hauling payload in the bed, maybe even towing a trailer to boot. Because they really don’t want to be doing warranty work to make 7500-10000 trucks run on regular fuel. Will there be some that won’t run on 87 octane? Sure, but this is a truck, not prius, it’s made to work not sit around and look pretty.

Time will tell how this shakes out, but for now I’ll defer to the folks who engineered and built the truck.
 

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Watch as Ford dealers put out a notice to increase the octane of your gas. It's a high compression twin turbo engine, yes you need 90+ octane gas. You'll see..

Until then I'll just watch the people with knocking and hesitation problems try to diagnose it..

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---------- Post added at 03:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:40 PM ----------

Assuming you put 100k miles on your truck before you sell it.. it will cost you between $1800-$3000 over the lifetime if it costs you $12 mode per tank.

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this guy gets it!

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While your previous experience may, or may not be informative, you’re making some assumptions and some of them may eventually be borne out, but some of them may also be disproven. You may not have a fuel problem per se, you may have regional additives to the fuel that are ******** up the burn, or you could have defective knock sensors. Or both.

I’ve run nothing but 87 in my Raptor since I got it, and there has been no babying. I have not been shy about throttle. This will be my 3rd unnaturally aspirated vehicle, and while there’s always a chance of bad gas, there’s also a chance you could stumble upon a vehicle with a bad knock sensor(s). I was skeptical that the truck would run on 87 unleashed in anger, but I’ve not had a hint of issue.

As others have posted here, the manual gives you the --minimum-- octane level to use. The truck should run properly on this grade of fuel and if it doesn’t, that’s why there’s a warranty. Now, if you mod the truck, no matter how minor you might think it is, you should budget for higher octane fuel. If it’s in the manual, you can bet the Ford tested that requirement from Alaska in the winter to the Mojave desert and everything in between including hauling payload in the bed, maybe even towing a trailer to boot. Because they really don’t want to be doing warranty work to make 7500-10000 trucks run on regular fuel. Will there be some that won’t run on 87 octane? Sure, but this is a truck, not prius, it’s made to work not sit around and look pretty.

Time will tell how this shakes out, but for now I’ll defer to the folks who engineered and built the truck.

According to @Bullishone s math, for the price of the raptor sticker package, you can run 93 in your truck.

Please just run 93.

Thank you.
 
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