GEN 2 disfigured leaves?

[Oldfart]

haha

no but from the picture, its obvious that the weight of the trailer/buggy isn't pushing down very much

if anything, I should look to making it completely flat

how do you suggest I weigh ?

I've used 2 home scales with a 2 X 4 across them. You could also check it at a dump/scale house if you have one around. Measure the height of the tongue when it's on the truck, and cut a 4 X 4 to match that length and set it on a scale.

 

[Donmatteo]

nope never

I've towed a buggy that weighs 1600 lbs and the axles on the trailer are forward (away from vehicle) and therefore puts less tongue weight.
the max tongue load is 500 lbs

even if my trailer was pushing the hitch down, I'd still be within the load

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What’s the weight of the trailer too? The springs look a lot like an overload.

 

[Pokahpolice]

What’s the weight of the trailer too? The springs look a lot like an overload.

That trailer would need to be made out of lead to weigh over 8,000lbs and put 800lbs of tongue weight. A SxS is only going to run 1500-1800lbs.

 

[Donmatteo]

That trailer would need to be made out of lead to weigh over 8,000lbs and put 800lbs of tongue weight. A SxS is only going to run 1500-1800lbs.

Fair enough. But the springs show an overload. Someone, at some point, overloaded the hitch or the bed.

 

[TXRaptor]

My 2019 looked like that when brand new springs were installed after the 1 st set took a crap at 2100 miles brand new set looked like that so don’t waste money doing Deavers etc. find a local spring shop ask them to add 1 leaf of steel and done. Made mine a little stiffer and raised it about 2 inches. And total cost with all new hardware was less that 425 bucks. Deavers for towing was oem take offs with a spring added and was like a grand plus shipping then install.

That's funny! Please check out the Deaver HDs in person before posting incorrect information. Also, adding a leaf underneath does not address the axle wrap problems caused by the 2" blocks Ford chose to use, either.

 

[GCATX]

nope never

I've towed a buggy that weighs 1600 lbs and the axles on the trailer are forward (away from vehicle) and therefore puts less tongue weight.
the max tongue load is 500 lbs

even if my trailer was pushing the hitch down, I'd still be within the load

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I'm not saying that load resulted in your spring sag, but what you said doesn't make any sense:

I've towed a buggy that weighs 1600 lbs and the axles on the trailer are forward (away from vehicle) and therefore puts less tongue weight.

Looking at your photo, the "buggy" is clearly ahead of the trailer axle (toward the hitch), putting more tongue weight on the truck hitch.

 

[hedonist222]

What’s the weight of the trailer too? The springs look a lot like an overload.

I'd say 200 to 250 lbs

springs were ok and dont look excessively flat

 

[hedonist222]

I'm not saying that load resulted in your spring sag, but what you said doesn't make any sense:

I've towed a buggy that weighs 1600 lbs and the axles on the trailer are forward (away from vehicle) and therefore puts less tongue weight.

Looking at your photo, the "buggy" is clearly ahead of the trailer axle (toward the hitch), putting more tongue weight on the truck hitch.

I'm not saying that load resulted in your spring sag, but what you said doesn't make any sense:

I've towed a buggy that weighs 1600 lbs and the axles on the trailer are forward (away from vehicle) and therefore puts less tongue weight.

Looking at your photo, the "buggy" is clearly ahead of the trailer axle (toward the hitch), putting more tongue weight on the truck hitch.

The buggy is ahead of the trailer, you're right. But thats to avoid this:




But notice the axle is rearward - away from the car which leverages the weight towards the trailer ramp.
You can see the weight in the photo.

 

[GCATX]

The buggy is ahead of the trailer, you're right. But thats to avoid this:

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But notice the axle is rearward - away from the car which leverages the weight towards the trailer ramp.
You can see the weight in the photo.

You said the trailer axles are forward (away from the vehicle)? What does that even mean? Seriously.

It looks like you have the trailer jack all the way down in the photo, so it's not even relevant to how much the trailer and buggy sagged out the truck. Here's what you said earlier: "no but from the picture, its obvious that the weight of the trailer/buggy isn't pushing down very much

if anything, I should look to making it completely flat"

Looks like you got some 'splainin to do.

 

[hedonist222]

You said the trailer axles are forward (away from the vehicle)? What does that even mean? Seriously.

It looks like you have the trailer jack all the way down in the photo, so it's not even relevant to how much the trailer and buggy sagged out the truck. Here's what you said earlier: "no but from the picture, its obvious that the weight of the trailer/buggy isn't pushing down very much

if anything, I should look to making it completely flat"

Looks like you got some 'splainin to do.

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I was writing in a hurry and can see how I wasn't clear.

The trailer axle is not centered on the trailer bed.
Perpendicularly - the axle is closer to the trailer ramp than the trailer tongue.

What I mean by that is because the axle is closer to the ramp, the trailer tongue tends to lift slightly upwards, releasing weight on the trailer hitch.
If the axle was centered or closer to the tongue, there would be more weight on the trailer hitch.

Yes the jack is all the way down in the photo because I didn't want to load my Raptor suspension all night.
But I raised the jack hitch and uncoupled it.
But the height it is at in the photo is 90% of the height when coupled.

If I were to couple the trailer with the buggy to the Raptor, it would look very similar to that photo.

I appreciate your feedback.