I dunno, we were all noob's in the snow, even behind the wheel at some point. Some of us were lucky enough to have a knowledgeable teacher to help us out in the beginning, some have to learn through their own private school of hard knocks. He was fortunate enough to learn a lesson here w/out any significant damage to himself nor anyone else. Maybe he'll be smart enough to use that going forward...slow down before hitting the corner next time. Or maybe this will prompt him/her to get a better set of snow, or at least all-season tires. I know when I moved to the Midwest from Houston I had to learn a few lessons myself about driving in the snow/slush. And I saw my share of peeps with the 'it's just snow' attitude who winded up burying themselves and needing a tow to get out. But by paying attention to what I was doing, watching others and a few 'pucker' moments myself (none as bad as this), I'm now reasonably competent, and appropriately cautious and of course have good equipment in the snow.