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FRF Addict
There you go, 0w20. Funny enough, Ford made the recomendation for it.
You can run whatever oil you want to, hell run olive oil in it, but ford recommends a weight and blend, maybe its even got millions of dollars in research and has reason behind it. I don't know why people are advocating that we take the OEM's experience and desire to keep vehicles running in every single climate with a grain of salt. I mean, why does Ford care if the engines last through the warranty, its only their reputation on the line and billions of dollars, I am sure they haven't put any thought into it.
Oh, and I can guarantee the petroleum and mechanical engineers that set up these oils, and determined the engine clearances didn't do so because they didn't like the way it poured out of a bottle at a cold temperature. Or because they "felt" like it was too thick or thin.
Do you think they expect people to change their oil when they go from Lake Havasu to Grand Forks North Dakota, or take a road trip from the keys to Fairbanks? Do truckers stop halfway through a maintenance cycle because they are seeing a 100° swing in their climates? Nope, they don't, because modern oils have already taken care of it.
Ford wants a cold climate viscocity, they have gone to all the effort of recommending a 5W (Thats 5 winter for anyone who hasn't read the links) or 0w. Ford also wants a warm climate viscosity and they were kind enough to share all these nice numbers with us so we, and our mechanics could easily do whats best for the vehicle.
And since you think I am to be discredited @dewalt: I have built my own engines: 2 stroke through big block, and no I don't mean I handed a bunch of parts to a machinist. I make my own measurements, select my own bearings and components, do my own assembly and torquing, and determine appropriate oil weights for myself. Based off of fact, published articles, experiential research and good old fashioned knowledge. I have blown up engines at 800+ horsepower and made them live just the same.
I studied Petroleum engineering at Colorado School of Mines, I have distilled crude in lab environments and done my own analysis. I have been to blending facilities, I have observed processes of turning natural gas to synthetics and I understand what goes into them and why. Since you have felt a need to come at me personally what are your credentials? Why do you get to command this ship and insult me without knowing who I am?
You can run whatever oil you want to, hell run olive oil in it, but ford recommends a weight and blend, maybe its even got millions of dollars in research and has reason behind it. I don't know why people are advocating that we take the OEM's experience and desire to keep vehicles running in every single climate with a grain of salt. I mean, why does Ford care if the engines last through the warranty, its only their reputation on the line and billions of dollars, I am sure they haven't put any thought into it.
Oh, and I can guarantee the petroleum and mechanical engineers that set up these oils, and determined the engine clearances didn't do so because they didn't like the way it poured out of a bottle at a cold temperature. Or because they "felt" like it was too thick or thin.
Do you think they expect people to change their oil when they go from Lake Havasu to Grand Forks North Dakota, or take a road trip from the keys to Fairbanks? Do truckers stop halfway through a maintenance cycle because they are seeing a 100° swing in their climates? Nope, they don't, because modern oils have already taken care of it.
Ford wants a cold climate viscocity, they have gone to all the effort of recommending a 5W (Thats 5 winter for anyone who hasn't read the links) or 0w. Ford also wants a warm climate viscosity and they were kind enough to share all these nice numbers with us so we, and our mechanics could easily do whats best for the vehicle.
And since you think I am to be discredited @dewalt: I have built my own engines: 2 stroke through big block, and no I don't mean I handed a bunch of parts to a machinist. I make my own measurements, select my own bearings and components, do my own assembly and torquing, and determine appropriate oil weights for myself. Based off of fact, published articles, experiential research and good old fashioned knowledge. I have blown up engines at 800+ horsepower and made them live just the same.
I studied Petroleum engineering at Colorado School of Mines, I have distilled crude in lab environments and done my own analysis. I have been to blending facilities, I have observed processes of turning natural gas to synthetics and I understand what goes into them and why. Since you have felt a need to come at me personally what are your credentials? Why do you get to command this ship and insult me without knowing who I am?
