GEN 1 Cold Weather Tips? (Canada)

[tltoronto]

Appreciate it, keeping the rust at bay is definitely a priority! Also, are there any known issues with the block heaters / cords on these trucks (2014)? The multiple recalls on the newer ones has me a little uneasy.

That's because its a Gen 2. I haven't heard of any fires regarding the Gen 1 or 2009-2014 f150 regarding block heaters. Maybe they changed suppliers? Also a little tip if you plan on offroading the truck in the cold weather. Don't go out immediately mobb'ing your truck, it will blow the shock seals. Get some temp into them first, and then go out to play. (Build up your speed through technical terrain)

 

[dewalt]

Have you ever used the dog dish hubcaps on an old ford to start them? You fill it full of gas and light it , and slide under the oil pan. On a heavy diesel you need atf and gas mixed together for a starting fluid. Wonder what engineer figured that design spec out, eh Ben.

 

[dewalt]

Terrible advise. This is Relic "knowledge" from the 70's, and needs to die.

Factory recommendation is 5w20, the 5 is winter viscosity and 20 is warm temp. These oils lose viscosity the colder they get so going to a 0 is exactly the wrong decision. You do not need to play with this, going to a 0 cold viscosity is going to put unnecessary wear on bearings, especially when your talking about someone who is starting their truck "10-20 times per day". Its also a good way to lower oil pressure in a system that's already heavily taxed. Going to a 30 hot viscosity will do nothing but put extra strain on the oil pump and reduce fuel economy.

You do not know better than the ford engineers who set the engine clearances and specified the bearings and oil weight, and whom actually have an understanding of the chemistry of modern oils.

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Hey Ben

Is a 5 weight oil the same at -40 as it is at +40 ? It pours entirely different. So what is wrong with a 0 weight oil that flows at -40, rather than being like corn syrup? Getting oil to bearings is a priority. Lots of engines have factory speced a 0 weight oil for 365. Why not go to a 0 for winter and a 5 for summer if you want. Please explain. Engineers built the Titanic to be unsinkable and it didn't even make the first trip.

 

[B E N]

Mobil 0W-30 oils
A 0W-30 low viscosity oil can be used where a 5W-30 or 10W-30 is recommended. Switching to a Mobil™ 0W-30 motor oil can help improve fuel economy because of the lower friction properties offered by this full synthetic formulation.

We offer Mobil 1™ Advanced Fuel Economy 0W-30, which is dexos1™ certified. General Motors recommends dexos1 certified motor oils for all 2011 or newer vehicles.

https://mobiloil.com/en/viscosity/0w-30

Ben Do you need a middol?

Do whatever you want man, but don't bring other people down with you because of your ignorance.

I presented fact, you presented advertisement. Did you read my post or just graze over it with hateful eyes? Lowering winter viscosity in an extremely climate is not good for your engine, the only thing that prevents bearing wear on startup is whatever film is left from the previous run cycle until oil pressure builds. Running a thicker than recommended oil in a truck that is known to have week oil pump gears is a bad choice.

 

[B E N]

Oh whatever. If 5 w 20 is recommended then what is wrong with 0w20? Love your bold type. Makes you look smart. Should of used more of it

doesn't matter to me but some of those 6.2 s took 5 w 30 , not 5 w 20

Why are you attacking me? I think you need to cool down a little bit, read up on multi weight oils and get a better understanding of what's actually going on here. After you've done that please feel to report back.

Here, start with this: https://www.motorstate.com/oilviscosity-htm/

There's a ton to read up on it, maybe you can become a subject matter expert.

 

[dewalt]

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/foru...835/why-does-ford-recommend-5w20-and-not-0w20

If you want to understand take a read. If you you want to be an internet expert, don't bother.

Your chart does not have 5w 20 on it. But it does say that 5w is rated to -35 and 0w is rated to -40 . Exactly what I sad The guy wanted an oil for the cold. I said get a 0w oil. Been there , done that. You can go back to being the winter oil internet expert

 

[dewalt]

Quoted from above


Nowhere in the Ford manuals, they say that you _have_ to use 5W20 synthetic blend. What you _have_ to use is the oil that meets Ford's specs. For the 20 grade oils, the spec name in the recent times was WSS-M2C945-A. For example, Mobil 1 AFE 0W20 meets this, as it is mentioned in the product manuals, as well as probably many other 0W20 oils.

 

[dewalt]

https://www.fcsdchemicalsandlubricants.com/main/product.asp?product=SAE 0W-20 Synthetic Blend Motor Oil&category=Motor Oil

Motorcraft® SAE 0W-20 Synthetic Blend Motor Oil is a premium-quality passenger car motor oil recommended by Ford Motor Company for 2013 model year and forward hybrid electric vehicles and below -20 °F (-30 °C) for Ford and Lincoln vehicles where SAE 5W-20 is normally recommended. This oil meets engine oil recommendations for Ford, Lincoln and many other equipment manufacturers that recommend an oil of this viscosity grade and quality. It is API Certified for gasoline engine service, ILSAC GF-5, and meets API SN/Resource Conserving and SN PLUS

So Ford recommends a 0w oil below -20 F

Terrible advise. This is Relic "knowledge" from the 70's, and needs to die.

eh Ben You know more than Ford?


Heres my report Ford recommends 0w2 when it gets cold

 

[EricM]

-50? You guys are ******* crazy living up there. It's too dman cold here, but at least it enough to keep away the big nasty bugs and arachnids.

I'd definitely run a 0 wt base oil if it was that cold. You'd be a moron not to. What possible downside is there? I'm not surprised to see that Ford specifically recommends it below -20.

 

[dewalt]

Yea and you have to get a cold package when you get shocks rebuilt. You cannot warm shocks or diffs up so you have to drive easy for a bit