COBB tuning Raptor tune

[FORZDA 1]

So you are saying if you add 50+ hp and or 75ftlbs tq there's no extra motor wear that may cause a failure prematurely????…..

That is precisely what I'm saying. If you actually understood where the increased loads are applied, you wouldn't be so stupid.

 

[Nick@Apollo-Optics]

If you’re still in the market, we have COBB intercoolers, downpipes, AP3s, CAIs, High-flow filters, and AP3 mounts on the shelf and ready to ship out!

 

[Badgertits]

interested....but I'm curious about the potential Ford factory tuning that may be on the horizon

 

[Thor2j]

That is precisely what I'm saying. If you actually understood where the increased loads are applied, you wouldn't be so stupid.

You are the one that is completely clueless. Ask any engineer, or better anyone with any common sense, and they will tell you added stress equals premature wear.
If this were the case why wouldn't Ford just make a 500hp raptor. Would be a much better marketing tool. Hell why not 550hp, just turn the boost and timing ul. According to your brilliant logic it would last just as long. Man you are an idiot.

 

[FORZDA 1]

You are the one that is completely clueless. Ask any engineer, or better anyone with any common sense, and they will tell you added stress equals premature wear.
If this were the case why wouldn't Ford just make a 500hp raptor. Would be a much better marketing tool. Hell why not 550hp, just turn the boost and timing ul. According to your brilliant logic it would last just as long. Man you are an idiot.

I am one of those guys, so... You know, the engineer with common sense...

Bless your heart.

You fuckwits don't keep a vehicle long enough to even understand what "premature wear" is and where it may actually occur.

 

[Booth9999]

interested....but I'm curious about the potential Ford factory tuning that may be on the horizon

Might be waiting for a while since there not going to make one.

 

[Thor2j]

I am one of those guys, so... You know, the engineer with common sense...

Bless your heart.

You fuckwits don't keep a vehicle long enough to even understand what "premature wear" is and where it may actually occur.

Go ahead , explain to us all if adding boost and timing to a motor has zero ramifications why doesnt Ford do it.....GO

 

[Trackar]

@Thor2j
Ford and most car manufactures will essentially over build their cars if they're smart. If the motor and other components limits were 500hp and they sell the cars or trucks with 500 hp theres very little margin for error... possibility for a lot of cars to break, in turn a lot of warranty work for them to cover.
Example, you can throw twin turbos on a new mustang GT it'll make 1000+ hp on a stock motor. Ford sells the cars making about 460, yet the motor can take 1000+, however at that point you're definitely stressing the motor. Find a middle ground at around 700-800hp with a supercharger and the motor isn't being stressed, it'll be fine. The Cobb tune is adding power, but also being very conservative. No where near enough to stress the motor to the point of "premature wear".

 

[FORZDA 1]

@Thor2j
Ford and most car manufactures will essentially over build their cars if they're smart. If the motor and other components limits were 500hp and they sell the cars or trucks with 500 hp theres very little margin for error... possibility for a lot of cars to break, in turn a lot of warranty work for them to cover.
Example, you can throw twin turbos on a new mustang GT it'll make 1000+ hp on a stock motor. Ford sells the cars making about 460, yet the motor can take 1000+, however at that point you're definitely stressing the motor. Find a middle ground at around 700-800hp with a supercharger and the motor isn't being stressed, it'll be fine. The Cobb tune is adding power, but also being very conservative. No where near enough to stress the motor to the point of "premature wear".

Well, at least there are some people on here that aren't fuckwits. @Trackar understands the concept and answered fuckwit2 quite admirably. I had decided I wasn't going to answer the "demand" by fuckwit2 because..., well just a *******.

I will elaborate just a little bit. Most engines in the past decades were built to a ~200% margin rule where the engine power could be increased by 150% without any added stress, providing the person doing wasn't a *******. Some engines were well beyond that, but not many. Anyway, in the most recent decade, Ford has cut that down to ~100% in the Ecoboost engines to get more power and economy from them at lighter weight, so increases above 75% are taking much of the margin away. If you look at all the different platforms data that Cobb OTS tunes, you'll notice that they add roughly 20-25% to the power output, so they are well within any stretch of "premature" anything. Their Pro Tuners will take it as far as you want to go, but beyond 75% will require beefier components like rods and pistons. The forged cranks are so stout, you wouldn't need to upgrade to aftermarket, just do the normal fine polishing, oiling passage chamfering and balance work.

edit: The OEMs will not tell you what I've just written above. They reserve the right to deny warranty for anything not OEM stock. That's normal business for all OEMs to protect themselves from fuckwits..

 

[Badgertits]

Might be waiting for a while since there not going to make one.

I'm not a big Ford guy - this is my first Ford that hasn't been a "beater ranger" used during the winter to give my GM muscle car a break (had 2 Rangers a 98 and 89) - I am still digging into the mod scene w/ this ecoboost motors, a friend of mine who's more of a Ford fanatic mentioned this to me - but I wasn't sure if it was true or just the rumor mill.

I'd love to sharpen the performance of the raptor & boost the power a bit w/ a conservative tune, but as others have discussed on this thread there are concerns about warranty & more importantly major drivetrain failure. My last 3 trucks were GM's starting w/ an '07 Silverado 5.3 - I was far less concerned w/ a tune on those engines if something broke & they wanted to bust my chops w/ warranty work the most likely failure would be engine top end or a torque converter or driveshaft - all 3 of which I'd have been happy to replace w/ aftermarket parts & F the warranty b/c its a "normal" N/A pushrod V8. DoD delete cam, yank stall, 2 piece steel driveshaft - boom, new grin on my face & not rocket science many guys will do these mods on their own then bring to a pro for a custom tune.

This 3.5 ecoboost though? Way too complicated & out of my (and most people's) comfort zone. DOHC = double the moving parts & double the cost to get gains there, I have no idea whether its possible to "rebuild" a blown 3.5 ecoboost or if replacement is usually the only option.

That is why I am concerned w/ even a mild tune on this truck, I don't see a way of getting around dealing w/ Ford dealer w/ major engine issues - hasn't been out long enough to have a huge aftermarket knowledge base, 2 types of fuel injection, 2 turbos, 2 cams, tons of software/electronic intervention - its daunting, but the temptation of considerable gains w/ a simple tune is huge!