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Jefe

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As for CAIs, I too am wondering what to do. I'm a new Raptor owner and am considering a few modifications to "wake the truck up", though I didn't know it was asleep to begin with. It's a bit of a daily driver for me and I'm definitely not looking for speeding tickets, but an exhaust note and better "feeling" and "response" from this truck would be great. Quality over quantity in my mind.

On Huck's note about not having a completely smooth surface, I can see the logic. I too work in the jet "world" and the concept that he's mentioning, boundary layer separation, actually makes a lot of sense. It's the way a wing works. Create a small area of turbulence around the solid surface so the "fluid" can move unrestricted around it. You'll notice on some wings and other places there are vortex generators put in specific places because we want air to flow a particular way around an object. It would seem to make sense then, that a little bit of friction in a controlled manner goes a long way actually. Obviously, you can over do the friction, but the theory makes sense. I'm not an areodynamisyst (if that's even a word), I'm just a glorified button pushing, pressurized aluminum operator and I still look out the window and wonder how the hell that thing works at times.
 

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I am running a stock intake and a drop in WIX filter (paper type, but has more than twice the surface area than OEM due to larger "cleats" and flows air pretty well) coupled with the SVC tune. Excellent throttle response down low, and power does not die off on the top of the rpm range compared to the OEM filter.

As recommended by SVC, stay with the stock intake and get yourself a good quality drop in filter.
 

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As for the entire CAI discussion, this group could use a sticky for that one discussion. Too many CAI threads. I've spent the better part of two days reading posts about them. But then again, I'm a new Raptor owner and there is a lot of good info here and I have a lot of catching up to do. Of course the sticky would have to be done by someone much wiser than me as I really don't know jack about CAIs. Come to think of it, I don't know jack about anything really. I just know the small peddle makes it go faster... and this I like.
 

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As for the entire CAI discussion, this group could use a sticky for that one discussion. Too many CAI threads. I've spent the better part of two days reading posts about them. But then again, I'm a new Raptor owner and there is a lot of good info here and I have a lot of catching up to do. Of course the sticky would have to be done by someone much wiser than me as I really don't know jack about CAIs. Come to think of it, I don't know jack about anything really. I just know the small peddle makes it go faster... and this I like.

In all honesty the intakes out on the market really do one of two things.

1. Make the car / truck louder
2. shifts power band up
---some cases---
3. you lose torque

The stock intakes on most cars is the better design. The sticking point is the filter which is why most tuners like SVC say change the filter and tune for that. As most of us want off the line power, stock is best. If you want bragging rights for HP then go to a intake a tune from there.

So if you want a real performance gain, panel filer and tune. intakes make the engine by look nice and make things louder which I like personally.
 

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Im going off my years of experience in the jet turbine industry. We never leave any surface smooth inside the compressors because it restricts flow and cooling and creates friction to the air flow thus slowing down the flow through the engine.

Since you can never have ideally smooth surface per fluid dynamics equations, we account for this by creating a "smooth" surface with dead air, and allowing the rest to flow smoothly.


Still apples to oranges. ICE (internal comb. engs.) are totally different than turbine engs. Norm. aspirated ICE engs. don't run compressed ambient air to the comb. chamber. That being said without getting into Bernoulli or anything, I'd like to think whatever can give the most laminar flow through the intake run would be best.
 

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My next question is does anyone know of a higher flow paper filter than stock? I don't want an oil one but would like a high quality paper drop in that matches stock filter for filtration but flows more due to depth of element or more surface area of filter.

Thanks guys !

AEM Dryflow, thats the one i run
 
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I decided to leave the intake stock, and go with the Wix paper filter, I took the stock one out and the wix is abou2x taller. Fit perfect.

It runs great. And I have peace of mind!
 
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