Borla Exhaust Ford F-150 Raptor 2017+
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Here’s what I sent to Borla to ask about the X pipe and other info.
“Hello, In regards to part number 140693, this should also fit the 2017 F150 3.5L ecoboost correct? What is the thought process to adding a X pipe to a turbocharged engine? Is it basically just to mellow out the exhaust tone? I would think that since there are no exhaust pulses coming through the turbos or lack of ability to effect scavenging that the X pipe would be pointless. Can 140693 be ordered without the x-pipe? Thanks very much!”
And here is the super technical / customer forward response I received:
“This system is made ONLY for vehicles with substantial engine upgrades, like our turbo upgrade kit it is meant to be paired with. If your vehicle is close to stock power-plant wise, this is not the right part. You should order the regular parts.”
I realize this isn’t exactly the same kit as being discussed in this thread but why is borla customer service so severely off base when it comes to their own products?
“Hello, In regards to part number 140693, this should also fit the 2017 F150 3.5L ecoboost correct? What is the thought process to adding a X pipe to a turbocharged engine? Is it basically just to mellow out the exhaust tone? I would think that since there are no exhaust pulses coming through the turbos or lack of ability to effect scavenging that the X pipe would be pointless. Can 140693 be ordered without the x-pipe? Thanks very much!”
And here is the super technical / customer forward response I received:
“This system is made ONLY for vehicles with substantial engine upgrades, like our turbo upgrade kit it is meant to be paired with. If your vehicle is close to stock power-plant wise, this is not the right part. You should order the regular parts.”
I realize this isn’t exactly the same kit as being discussed in this thread but why is borla customer service so severely off base when it comes to their own products?
Predator
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Here are my thoughts...
Based on CJ Pony Parts Installation YouTube video of the S-type, I decided to purchase. In the video, it sounded pretty damn good. In hindsight, what was grossly inaccurate was the in-cabin footage. Their video didn't accurately represent the farty noises and drone. Nor did they describe it in the video, but hey, why would they... they are trying to sell the damn thing.
I had the S-type (w/x-pipe) installed on my Rap at the dealer and on the way home I was seriously regretting my decision. It sounded like a tuner fart can Honda. It was embarrassing. Oh and the drone on the highway at all speeds... almost criminal. The faster you go over 55 MPH, the louder it gets. Unless of course, your stereo is cranked up, then you won't really hear it.
Cold startup sounds phenomenal, as it has a deeper, louder grunt accompanied by a better pronounced turbo whistle. Don't expect it to sound like a Super Duty, however.
After 100+ miles the exhaust has mellowed out. Some of the "fartiness" under acceleration and highway drone has subsided. I now love this exhaust half the time, and the other half I feel like it could be corrected by installing a Borla resonator. But my concern is that if I install the resonator I'll lose the sound I love the half of the time. First World Problems. Ugh.
Based on CJ Pony Parts Installation YouTube video of the S-type, I decided to purchase. In the video, it sounded pretty damn good. In hindsight, what was grossly inaccurate was the in-cabin footage. Their video didn't accurately represent the farty noises and drone. Nor did they describe it in the video, but hey, why would they... they are trying to sell the damn thing.
I had the S-type (w/x-pipe) installed on my Rap at the dealer and on the way home I was seriously regretting my decision. It sounded like a tuner fart can Honda. It was embarrassing. Oh and the drone on the highway at all speeds... almost criminal. The faster you go over 55 MPH, the louder it gets. Unless of course, your stereo is cranked up, then you won't really hear it.
Cold startup sounds phenomenal, as it has a deeper, louder grunt accompanied by a better pronounced turbo whistle. Don't expect it to sound like a Super Duty, however.
After 100+ miles the exhaust has mellowed out. Some of the "fartiness" under acceleration and highway drone has subsided. I now love this exhaust half the time, and the other half I feel like it could be corrected by installing a Borla resonator. But my concern is that if I install the resonator I'll lose the sound I love the half of the time. First World Problems. Ugh.
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It won’t fix what you need.
I have the FOMOCO touring which has the resonator.
I say keep what you have and add two twister resonators....
Bullishone did it even with downpipes.
Sounded good.
I’ve been thinking of doing it too.
I have the FOMOCO touring which has the resonator.
I say keep what you have and add two twister resonators....
Bullishone did it even with downpipes.
Sounded good.
I’ve been thinking of doing it too.
k-rub
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Do you still have your stock exhaust? Maybe take the stock resonator and drop it in. It would probably be a direct fit. If not, an exhaust shop could cut/weld to make it work. That would be significantly cheaper that the Borla resonator.
The pro to this route is that if it sounds like crap you can remove the stock resonator and reinstall the Borla X Pipe.
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Would you have room for the Twister resonators? Or would you have to remove the FP resonator section?
I like the thought of the Twisters, I just don't know about the space.
The pro to this route is that if it sounds like crap you can remove the stock resonator and reinstall the Borla X Pipe.
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Would you have room for the Twister resonators? Or would you have to remove the FP resonator section?
I like the thought of the Twisters, I just don't know about the space.
CatchMeOffroad
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Sounds like you need a Corsa system. I was running their Xtreme muffler with my stock resonator for a while, but I later deleted the resonator for more volume.
Great video clip of how this exhaust sounds on the 3.5L ecoboost - I stand corrected.. it's actually not all that bad!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt_kR7u6mM4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt_kR7u6mM4
There is room.
You have to weld them in-line right in front of the muffler.
The touring exhaust is pretty darn cool, but the problem is that at very low RPM, under 2000 and when gently accelerating.... it fills the cabin with “Brrrrrrrrr”. Like a cheap 4 banger.
I’d like to get rid of the brrrr and I think I’m willing to sacrifice some upper RPM TONE.
You have to weld them in-line right in front of the muffler.
The touring exhaust is pretty darn cool, but the problem is that at very low RPM, under 2000 and when gently accelerating.... it fills the cabin with “Brrrrrrrrr”. Like a cheap 4 banger.
I’d like to get rid of the brrrr and I think I’m willing to sacrifice some upper RPM TONE.
k-rub
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I honestly think a great test would be to replace your X pipe with the stock resonator section if you still have it. Would be free and a great way to tell if you would like it that quiet.
dwiyrick
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Selling ATAK $700
Seattle area - new exhaust coming in 3 weeks, available then.
Seattle area - new exhaust coming in 3 weeks, available then.
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