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Sephiroth

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Obviously enhanced cruise control and full self-driving are features that all cars will inevitably have -- to think otherwise is a little short sighted. The question is how many decades until self-driving is mandatory. Maybe not in the next 30 years, but long term you'll need a special license to manually drive a car.

For now, I appreciate that the feature exists and can simply not use it if I want to drive myself. Win-win. But I hate driving long distances on the highway and could see it being a huge help for road trips.
I think a society of self driving cars is a pipe dream from people that have watched one too many sci-fi movies. You can’t control variables in an environment that’s uncontrollable (such as free will). You can’t control the uncontrollable. There are just too many factors. It’s a pipe dream. All it takes is one accident, one **** up, one death and a lawsuit.

It’s like socialism. Sounds great in theory, but isn’t realistic or practical.
I’ll just sit in a corner and **** now.
 

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Obviously enhanced cruise control and full self-driving are features that all cars will inevitably have -- to think otherwise is a little short sighted. The question is how many decades until self-driving is mandatory. Maybe not in the next 30 years, but long term you'll need a special license to manually drive a car.

For now, I appreciate that the feature exists and can simply not use it if I want to drive myself. Win-win. But I hate driving long distances on the highway and could see it being a huge help for road trips.
Totes! I did a research paper back in college on autonomous vehicles, it's nice to see the tech finally coming to market. But without sustainable infrastructure to back it up it'll still be 10-20 years out before you start seeing a larger push for autonomy. Designated lanes might be the first to get implemented, or even just highways that are specially marked and mapped. But to try and get the entire population onboard requires a LOT of time. Think of how many cars on the the road today, they would all have to be discarded and recycled and replaced with new self driving ones.
It's also cool to watch how they sort of started the same trend with electric which is a few years ahead, but both techs are about together and you'll probably see more and more cars with it
 

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Yea it's great in theory and requires mostly everyone to be on board to function in the way that we all dream.. No more traffic!
Edit: and to take a nap and wake up at the beach :)
 

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Yea it's great in theory and requires mostly everyone to be on board to function in the way that we all dream.. No more traffic!
Edit: and to take a nap and wake up at the beach :)
You hit the nail on the head, if we take the humans OUT of the driver's seat we get the pipe dream but, good luck with that. Too many people like to drive fast and loose. I think they should do it on highways only -- only automated driving on the highway.
 

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I think a society of self driving cars is a pipe dream from people that have watched one too many sci-fi movies. You can’t control variables in an environment that’s uncontrollable (such as free will). You can’t control the uncontrollable. There are just too many factors. It’s a pipe dream. All it takes is one accident, one **** up, one death and a lawsuit.

It’s like socialism. Sounds great in theory, but isn’t realistic or practical.
I’ll just sit in a corner and **** now.
You mean one one death, as compared to the thirty-eight thousand every year with manual driving? You don't know what you are talking about. Hundreds of people can die in autonomous vehicle crashes a year and we will still be saving tens of thousands of lives.

Autonomous driving will not be perfect. There will be accidents and deaths (there already have been). The positive impact on the roadway fatality rate will be significant.
 

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The changeover is going to suck. All of the autonomous drivers driving like your Grandmother and the impatient yahoos cutting them off and causing them to slam on the brakes. At which point the yahoo tailgating can't react quickly enough to not rear end the autopilot ... It's going to be a real mess.
 

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All it takes is one accident, one **** up, one death and a lawsuit.

Well your theory has already been debunked. There have been self-driving related deaths, and the tech hasn't been banned and is moving forward.

Tesla's approach of "testing in production" doesn't sit well with me, but with every major auto manufacturer working on more gradual solutions, it won't be long before every new vehicle is equipped with the functionality. In the next 30 years, a vast majority of cars can and will be driving themselves.

We will look back at the tens of thousands of annual car-related deaths and millions of accidents and wonder how that was ever acceptable.
 

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All great points! This also brings the potential new revenue stream for the big insurance companies that will now offer "premium autonomous insurance"
 

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Well your theory has already been debunked. There have been self-driving related deaths, and the tech hasn't been banned and is moving forward.

Tesla's approach of "testing in production" doesn't sit well with me, but with every major auto manufacturer working on more gradual solutions, it won't be long before every new vehicle is equipped with the functionality. In the next 30 years, a vast majority of cars can and will be driving themselves.

We will look back at the tens of thousands of annual car-related deaths and millions of accidents and wonder how that was ever acceptable.
While I agree everyone on the road being a “beta” tester isn’t ideal... think about the big picture of how many millions of miles have been driven and logged into their system for use to improve their product, and continue to be logged daily. Ford is touring their system for which they drove 100k miles for the data. How long did it take them to do that? How much can change in a year on major busy roadways... there is constant construction in my city with regard to major roads, divided highways and the interstate. I would rather data being a constant stream into a system for constant improvements rather than relying on data that’s 12 months old.
 
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