Bent tie rods from minor rut G3 2022

[FordTechOne]

Bending a tie rod because you hit rut at a poor angle traveling too fast doesn't make your truck a "lemon". Tie rod failures do not seem to be prominent at all on this forum.. Your Gen 3 has no where near the capabilities of your 2015 based on your build.

Exactly. People damage their trucks and then scream “lemon”. It takes a massive amount of force in a very specific location to bend a tie rod like that, it’s not a defect. Something had to absorb that impact, if it wasn’t the tie rods it would have destroyed the steering rack.

 

[dirtslinger]

I bent a Tie-rod on my 2017 in Baja on some smaller than that, it was pretty shocking that it bent, but, we removed it, straightened it, had some make shift welding done to it, and moved on for about another 200 miles.

 

[taquitos]

Bending a tie rod because you hit rut at a poor angle traveling too fast doesn't make your truck a "lemon". Tie rod failures do not seem to be prominent at all on this forum.. Your Gen 3 has no where near the capabilities of your 2015 based on your build.

Bending a tie rod does not. Although 40 isn’t fast for that rut. All the other random crap with low miles does. Shifter being messed up, t case codes, blowing up a hub… plus it’s a 22 so the shocks probably clunk. It’s not his first raptor so I would assume he’s not just leaving it in 4 with locked difs on pavement or anything dumb like that. He’s also saying the truck doesn’t feel that great compared to previous stock raptors which definitely wouldn’t be the case if all was well. At least in the state I live in it would be hard to warranty everything that’s wrong with some of these without it qualifying for the lemon law. I was one trip to the dealership away from my truck being eligible to be a lemon and I don’t even have much wrong compared to other gen 3s. It’s a phenomenal truck and I wouldn’t trade it for anything, but there’s no denying ford’s quality is mediocre right now.

 

[Donovan]

That.... looks complex.

 

[DFS]

Bending a tie rod does not. Although 40 isn’t fast for that rut. All the other random crap with low miles does. Shifter being messed up, t case codes, blowing up a hub… plus it’s a 22 so the shocks probably clunk. It’s not his first raptor so I would assume he’s not just leaving it in 4 with locked difs on pavement or anything dumb like that. He’s also saying the truck doesn’t feel that great compared to previous stock raptors which definitely wouldn’t be the case if all was well. At least in the state I live in it would be hard to warranty everything that’s wrong with some of these without it qualifying for the lemon law. I was one trip to the dealership away from my truck being eligible to be a lemon and I don’t even have much wrong compared to other gen 3s. It’s a phenomenal truck and I wouldn’t trade it for anything, but there’s no denying ford’s quality is mediocre right now.

I don't disagree with the current quality being sub par. I almost smash my driver door panel daily because of rattles and creaks that I can't get to the root cause, and I have plenty of other small issues with my '23. But the tie rod should be 100% on the driver, we have no idea what angle he hit that at combined with moderate speed, and clearly got bound up, something has to give.

 

[FordTechOne]

Bending a tie rod does not. Although 40 isn’t fast for that rut. All the other random crap with low miles does. Shifter being messed up, t case codes, blowing up a hub… plus it’s a 22 so the shocks probably clunk. It’s not his first raptor so I would assume he’s not just leaving it in 4 with locked difs on pavement or anything dumb like that. He’s also saying the truck doesn’t feel that great compared to previous stock raptors which definitely wouldn’t be the case if all was well. At least in the state I live in it would be hard to warranty everything that’s wrong with some of these without it qualifying for the lemon law. I was one trip to the dealership away from my truck being eligible to be a lemon and I don’t even have much wrong compared to other gen 3s. It’s a phenomenal truck and I wouldn’t trade it for anything, but there’s no denying ford’s quality is mediocre right now.

Lemon law on the left coast is ridiculous. A “messed up shifter” and a T-case code are hardly reasons to brand a vehicle a “lemon”. And “blown up hub?” I didn’t know hubs were explosive

Assuming how OP was driving and that he had shock issues is also baseless. There is not a manufacturer in existence that has zero defects, that is why you have a warranty. The idea that everyone is entitled to a full refund of their purchase any time they need to have their vehicle fixed for free is asinine.

 

[taquitos]

I don't disagree with the current quality being sub par. I almost smash my driver door panel daily because of rattles and creaks that I can't get to the root cause, and I have plenty of other small issues with my '23. But the tie rod should be 100% on the driver, we have no idea what angle he hit that at combined with moderate speed, and clearly got bound up, something has to give.

I didn’t say the tie rod made it a lemon. In fact I’m pretty sure I said it does not. I think there is a chance the tie rods are undersized for going fast on 37s though. Ford seems to view the 37 as more geared towards lower speed so I can see the train of thought where they would have decided tie rod size was fine. That’s a design choice not a defect.

 

[taquitos]

Lemon law on the left coast is ridiculous. A “messed up shifter” and a T-case code are hardly reasons to brand a vehicle a “lemon”. And “blown up hub?” I didn’t know hubs were explosive

Assuming how OP was driving and that he had shock issues is also baseless. There is not a manufacturer in existence that has zero defects, that is why you have a warranty. The idea that everyone is entitled to a full refund of their purchase any time they need to have their vehicle fixed for free is asinine.

That depends on how long it takes for all that to get fixed. If a new vehicle spends too much time in the shop that’s just what it is. Given my experiences it seems like potentially a lot of shop time. Lots of dealers over here are useless.

I wouldn’t say the lemon laws over here are entirely ridiculous. You don’t buy a new vehicle to have to deal with used vehicle shit. You get rid of those laws and there’s no incentive to deliver a solid vehicle. There are plenty of people that go over the top with it, but I don’t think this guy mentioned that at all. Just because something is a lemon doesn’t mean it needs to be acted on. Like I said, I was one trip away from my truck being eligible but I would not have tried to start anything even if it took two more trips.

I would bet a large percentage of 21 and 22 trucks have a shock clunk and it’s usually not diagnosed. They seem to be mechanically fine, but it is something that gets done under warranty. There isn’t a SSM for nothing. Stuff like that isn’t just a random roll of the dice. That’s not how manufacturing works.

 

[DFS]

I didn’t say the tie rod made it a lemon. In fact I’m pretty sure I said it does not. I think there is a chance the tie rods are undersized for going fast on 37s though. Ford seems to view the 37 as more geared towards lower speed so I can see the train of thought where they would have decided tie rod size was fine. That’s a design choice not a defect.

I didn't mean to make it seem like you did, I was addressing the fact OP did allude to that being one of the issues leading to it being a "lemon".

 

[smurfslayer]

Ya I am feeling lemon-ish. However I have the extended warranty. SO far it sounds like Ford is going to fix all my complaints. Thanks for the shock info.

I think the tire PSI was 40+. Maybe 45 PSI. Normally in past trucks I would run at 32 to 35 PSI.

I am hearing the new Broncos and Rangers are bending tie rods like crazy as well.

Double Ewe.
Tee.
Eff.

would you run 40-45psi off road? That is going to transfer every imperfection into the suspension and frame. You probably still would have bent some hard parts but you can let the tires absorb some.

Bending a tie rod because you hit rut at a poor angle traveling too fast doesn't make your truck a "lemon". Tie rod failures do not seem to be prominent at all on this forum.. Your Gen 3 has no where near the capabilities of your 2015 based on your build.

I agree, haven’t seen much by way of tie rods here.