BBK Throttle Body

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Looking at the dyno results, looks like it LOST low end torque/HP, where you would normally drive it & made the powerband a lot more narrow.

That could be because both runs were performed with the stock tune. A friend of mine said he remembers reading that to stock tune doesn't allow WOT from the throttle body until around 4600 RPM and that's where the BBK power curves overtake the OEM power curves.

I wish they would have ran this same truck with a tuner also.

15hp/15lb.ft. does seem a bit high for a 5mm TB increase.
 

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waiting to see someone with this give a review

I can give you a review from a corvette perspective. Little or nothing for improvement and that was only at top end. Larger throttle bodies were all the rave in the corvette community five or six years ago. Here is the issue......that slight increase (usually about 5 to 8 mm) will only show up in the higher RPM spectrum. Guys were sticking in 10mm enlarged TB's and still not getting much in the way of power.They can actually hurt the low end and is no more than about ten extra horses at the very most on the high end. Now you increase the "need" for an increased a/r (head/cam, enlarged cylinder bore/stroke etc.) you will need a larger TB but just sticking it on a stock unit will garner you very little improvement. Same issue with TB spacers that do little or nothing for the expense.
 

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Sorry to be the ****** that brings up old topics, but... When is someone going to come up with a Cable operated throttle body for today's useless fly by wire throttle bodies?
 

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Not unless you rip out the current drive train and install a pre PCM drain train, maybe one with just an ECM drive train.
That would be the only way.

---------- Post added at 09:09 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:02 PM ----------

Incase your wondering what the difference is.

ECM vs PCM

Cars have been around long before the advent of electronics and computers.
But with every complex technology, electronics have gradually been introduced to simplify and optimize certain aspects.
This is the case with ECM and PCM, which are basically dedicated computers that monitor and control certain functions of a vehicle.
The PCM stands for Power-train Control Module and it is basically a more dedicated type of an Electronic Control Module.
An ECM takes an input which it processes and compares with a look-up table. It would then change certain settings on the car.

A PCM is a specialized ECM that combines the function of the ECU (Engine Control Unit) and TCM (Transmission Control Unit).
The ECU is meant to handle solely for the engine of the car. It controls things like fuel to air ratio, ignition timing, idle speed, and even with variable valve timing.
The TCM is specific to cars with automatic transmission and controls whether to shift-up or down depending on certain conditions like speed, traction, and throttle position.
Having a PCM makes the car perform better compared to the mechanical and pneumatic methods used in older cars because it can sense the changes of the conditions and automatically adjust accordingly.
It is also a lot more convenient for the driver as it will handle things that would otherwise be handled by the driver.


Even though the engine is the most important part of a car, other parts also need to be monitored and automatically controlled.
A few examples include the ACM for the airbags; the BCM for the doors, windows, and lights; and many more.
These are not as essential as the TCM, ECU, and PCM but they still play a major role for the convenience and comfort of the driver.
 
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I just like the feel of being in complete control of the throttle body. And by feel, I literally mean feel. Had to drive my Ma's POS Journey today in the snow to pick up my SW system. I literally couldn't control the traction. Traction control is a complete useless system to me. I turned it off "completely" to try and actually move through the snow. That made me realize that our trucks have these POS fly-by-wire throttle bodies. Horrible comparison but I drove my '97 Buick through the snow WAY better through the same shit and was able to control the traction because I could actually feel the engine through the pedal. Maybe I'm a weirdo but I drive for a living. I just wish the fly-by-wire TB was never invented. Plus when we mash the throttle in our trucks, we all now know that we don't get full throttle until 4500rpms? That's dumb to me. I'd like achieve full throttle whenever I step on the throttle. I'm not bashing/hating. I just wish someone could come up with a cable throttle body.
 

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I hear you loud and clear!!!!!

I hate the FBW in the new cranes as well, having wait for the computer to make up your mine for you sucks.


The saying goes "nothing like control (flying) from the seat of your pants"
 
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