Anyone see the Ford oil consumption warnings this week?
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Beinkounter
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OK, I was hoping not have anything to do with this topic, but here I am. 2019 Raptor, with 3k miles on it. Was driving it the other day, noticed significant loss in power as I accelerated. I would press the gas and the engine would not respond. So I drove home, and the next morning I checked the oil, found that it had barely any in it.
Took it to the dealer, they looked at it, and confirmed it had only 3 quarts in it. They changed the oil, mentioned the TSB from Ford regarding oil consumption on the 2019 EcoBoost engines and said that they will replace the valve cover as per the service bulletin and do an oil change.
So here is what's going to happen;
I will have them change the valve cover, and see if that fixes this issue. If it doesn't, I am taking it back to the dealer to try another fix. If there is no other fix, I am going to lemon that thing and hopefully get my money back.
Not my first rodeo. Had a 2007 GMC Yukon SLT that I bought brand new and had the same exact issue. After going back and forth with GM on this for a year, I finally called a lemon law attorney and they settled for a reasonable amount. However, that was 6 years after I bought the car.
In this case, considering how much I paid for this wonderful truck (which I do truly enjoy driving), the only settlement I'll accept is a full refund or a replacement brand new truck.
will keep you all posted.
Took it to the dealer, they looked at it, and confirmed it had only 3 quarts in it. They changed the oil, mentioned the TSB from Ford regarding oil consumption on the 2019 EcoBoost engines and said that they will replace the valve cover as per the service bulletin and do an oil change.
So here is what's going to happen;
I will have them change the valve cover, and see if that fixes this issue. If it doesn't, I am taking it back to the dealer to try another fix. If there is no other fix, I am going to lemon that thing and hopefully get my money back.
Not my first rodeo. Had a 2007 GMC Yukon SLT that I bought brand new and had the same exact issue. After going back and forth with GM on this for a year, I finally called a lemon law attorney and they settled for a reasonable amount. However, that was 6 years after I bought the car.
In this case, considering how much I paid for this wonderful truck (which I do truly enjoy driving), the only settlement I'll accept is a full refund or a replacement brand new truck.
will keep you all posted.
Beinkounter
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Strongly and respectfully disagree. Some of us have different standards for what we expect our of an $80k product. If you are checking the oil on a brand new car, why stop there? Why not do a compression test, check the transmission, gaskets,belts, timing? Hell, maybe even pull out the gas tank and inspect it for any leaks.
I would expect a car this expensive to come from the manufacturer ready to drive without me having to look under the hood for at least the first 10k - 15k miles. Just my 2 cents.
Fastback89
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You are correct! If a new truck burns through 3 quarts in 3 thousand miles there's something wrong with it, I wouldn't want it either.
You just need to calm down. You want to file for a lemon law because your vehicle needs a TSB? Ford identified the issue and released the service bulletin to fix the issue. It's not the end of the world!
This thread is a fire drill!
The bulletins posted are all for different issues.
The 6.7 Diesel oil consumption is only on vehicles that literally idle all day long in commercial applications. The fix? Replace the oil/air separator.
The 5.0? Some build tolerance issues were identified in a small percentage of vehicles.
The 3.5? The valve covers were found to be incorrectly manufactured which can cause excessive oil consumption. The fix is to simply replace the valve covers.
The bulletins posted are all for different issues.
The 6.7 Diesel oil consumption is only on vehicles that literally idle all day long in commercial applications. The fix? Replace the oil/air separator.
The 5.0? Some build tolerance issues were identified in a small percentage of vehicles.
The 3.5? The valve covers were found to be incorrectly manufactured which can cause excessive oil consumption. The fix is to simply replace the valve covers.
Every manufacturer specifies intervals in which the oil level should be checked. Many recommend every fuel fill up. That in no way related to an in-depth engine diagnosis as you've inferred.
Also, all engine will consume oil until they've completely broken in. Ford specifies 10,000 miles as the break in maximum for these engines. If you notice some oil consumption before the break in there is no need to panic. If the oil consumption is irregular (multiple quarts) bring it in to have the TSB performed.
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This thread is a dumpster fire, started by a troll - sasquatch77.
You’re free to disagree with me as much as you like. I had exactly the same expectations when I bought my first new truck for a whopping $13.5k I was on my 2nd job out of high school, so it was a chunk of change for me. I have the same expectations of this truck. sometimes my expectations have been met, sometimes not. I want my new purchases to be trouble free, but reality usually tramples my expectations.
Oil checking is recommended in the owner’s manual under the regular maintenance section. Tire pressure is something we’re also supposed to check regularly and most of us just jump in the car / truck or whatever and drive. No walk around, no checking the lights, brakes or visual inspection. It’s this lackadaisical approach to piloting a multi-ton vehicle that get us mandatory vehicle safety inspections when some negligent alpha hotel plows into someone and seriously injures or kills them because they couldn’t be bothered to adequately upkeep their vehicle. compression checks aren’t routine maintenance, but gaskets, belts and similar should be.
It’s not like the sudden loss of power due to low oil is an unknown issue in the Ford owner’s community and sooner or later one of us is going to lose power trying to cross a highway or merge into traffic and not make it, causing a collision or worse.
We can know about this and dutifully check the oil to prevent it from sneaking up on us, or, we can rationalize not checking it and some day the truck will just leave you in the lurch because it doesn’t have enough oil. What if your family or friends are in the truck with you? It’s not like other manufacturers don’t have similar engine survival strategies built in, Ford isn’t unique in this.
We can agree to disagree about the interval we all need to be inspecting our vehicles for potential issues. My personal interval is substantially less than “10-15K miles”. I do hope that the drivers I share the road with also are more attentive to routine maintenance.
You’re free to disagree with me as much as you like. I had exactly the same expectations when I bought my first new truck for a whopping $13.5k I was on my 2nd job out of high school, so it was a chunk of change for me. I have the same expectations of this truck. sometimes my expectations have been met, sometimes not. I want my new purchases to be trouble free, but reality usually tramples my expectations.
Oil checking is recommended in the owner’s manual under the regular maintenance section. Tire pressure is something we’re also supposed to check regularly and most of us just jump in the car / truck or whatever and drive. No walk around, no checking the lights, brakes or visual inspection. It’s this lackadaisical approach to piloting a multi-ton vehicle that get us mandatory vehicle safety inspections when some negligent alpha hotel plows into someone and seriously injures or kills them because they couldn’t be bothered to adequately upkeep their vehicle. compression checks aren’t routine maintenance, but gaskets, belts and similar should be.
It’s not like the sudden loss of power due to low oil is an unknown issue in the Ford owner’s community and sooner or later one of us is going to lose power trying to cross a highway or merge into traffic and not make it, causing a collision or worse.
We can know about this and dutifully check the oil to prevent it from sneaking up on us, or, we can rationalize not checking it and some day the truck will just leave you in the lurch because it doesn’t have enough oil. What if your family or friends are in the truck with you? It’s not like other manufacturers don’t have similar engine survival strategies built in, Ford isn’t unique in this.
We can agree to disagree about the interval we all need to be inspecting our vehicles for potential issues. My personal interval is substantially less than “10-15K miles”. I do hope that the drivers I share the road with also are more attentive to routine maintenance.
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