Anyone else think Ford maybe having trouble making these?

[r3run33]

That's what I mean the raptor supercrew is going to have the bigger cab and its own dedicated frame so I don't think it's gonna be on the same plant line; I think it maybe on the F250 line??? I'm not a expert if anyone knows chime in. Now I did see the F250 FX4 and they seemed to be pushing for a more "off road worthy" people. Not to get anyone angry but many raptors never see dirt in their lifetime. I need a truck soon if I really have to wait till February I may have to get one now and save my pennies for a raptor when things calm down.

 

[hkguns]

That's what I mean the raptor supercrew is going to have the bigger cab and its own dedicated frame so I don't think it's gonna be on the same plant line; I think it maybe on the F250 line??? I'm not a expert if anyone knows chime in.

People who know already chimed in there guy.

Again, it is built on the same line as the regular F150, the Dearborn Truck plant to be specific.

The larger trucks are built in an entirely different State and plant.

 

[ovrlnd]

Ford could rededicate their F150 lines to build more Raptors but they aren't going to sacrifice regular F150 inventory which is by far and away their leading seller. They will make Raptor buyers wait, plain and simple.

Depends on whether they're at capacity, how many Raptors orders are replacing regular F150 orders vs additional, how much profit they're making on each model, etc.

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That's what I mean the raptor supercrew is going to have the bigger cab and its own dedicated frame so I don't think it's gonna be on the same plant line; I think it maybe on the F250 line???

It's the standard F150 frame, just fully boxed and then reinforced, so no reason they need to build it on a different line. The cabs are the same between the 150 and the new super duties.

 

[Craigy]

Depends on whether they're at capacity, how many Raptors orders are replacing regular F150 orders vs additional, how much profit they're making on each model, etc.

They're typically always at capacity and wary to add any additional capacity due to union rules.

 

[r3run33]

People who know already chimed in there guy.

Again, it is built on the same line as the regular F150, the Dearborn Truck plant to be specific.

The larger trucks are built in an entirely different State and plant.

are you 100% sure of this? I thought the raptor will have a separate frame (similar and re informed etc) and the super crew cab is bigger. not sure if these are easy to work into the production line.
Now I know the super duty and the raptor will have same super crew cab but is this the same for the regular f150 super crew?

 

[RLTW]

Any first Gen of anything has it's hurdles and set-backs. I think Ford underestimated the people looking forward to the Gen2. Maybe they pay less attention to the forums than we all thought.....

I think they will get it straightened out, but not the first go around. I bet they hope the first buyers hang around long enough and don't scurry off to another manufacturer like Toyota. The only advantage they have at this point is having the ability to offer a truck equipped like the Raptor that no one else does.

Could be a good time for Toyota, Chevy or Dodge to throw enough money at their trucks to actually compete. That would definitely stomp Ford's buzz, huh?

Lol You thought ford payed attention to the forums? hahahaha and the gen 2 is what they came up with. Nope, not one listen.

 

[ovrlnd]

They're typically always at capacity and wary to add any additional capacity due to union rules.

I guess it depends on how they define capacity. Sales over the past few years have ranged from 50k to 85k per month. That doesn't necessarily correspond to production, and I don't know if Ford counts a sale as a customer sale or as a delivery to a dealer, but still, there's a good bit of fluctuation there. I assume that they have some standard production rate and then do overtime shifts to make up the differences and in extreme low periods, idle the line as needed.

Anyway, there does seem to be some flexibility in production and then too, Ford is saying that the market has peaked and to expect lower sales next year.

And I don't think there's anything special about running a raptor through the line. I remember when TFL Truck showed their raptor being produced, it was just thrown between other models so it's not like they have to shut things down and shift to raptor production for a day or anything. The new line is supposed to have made shuffling models and options even easier for them.

 

[FordFanStan]

All of this speculation is just ridiculous.

• Ford did not specify a production date, someone on the forum did (which was hearsay from an employee at a plant)
• Ford did not specify allocation, someone on the forum did (which was hearsay from a single dealer [of all people], not all dealers)
• Just because they didn't build a v8 option which majority want (but have no valid argument as to why) doesn't mean they do not research and listen to their customers. A global billion dollar company does not make uninformed decisions. They are making decisions which better the company, the customer, and the environment. I am sure there are many specific reasons for this particular build, namely technology and progressive movement. They have already proven this platform through the SCCA GT and other racing/testing platforms.

 

[hkguns]

I guess it depends on how they define capacity. Sales over the past few years have ranged from 50k to 85k per month. That doesn't necessarily correspond to production, and I don't know if Ford counts a sale as a customer sale or as a delivery to a dealer, but still, there's a good bit of fluctuation there. I assume that they have some standard production rate and then do overtime shifts to make up the differences and in extreme low periods, idle the line as needed.



Anyway, there does seem to be some flexibility in production and then too, Ford is saying that the market has peaked and to expect lower sales next year.



And I don't think there's anything special about running a raptor through the line. I remember when TFL Truck showed their raptor being produced, it was just thrown between other models so it's not like they have to shut things down and shift to raptor production for a day or anything. The new line is supposed to have made shuffling models and options even easier for them.

Frame is different and wider to start with, engine is different as well. Sequencing all the special parts isn't always easy.

 

[ZaneMasterX]

Frame is different and wider to start with, engine is different as well. Sequencing all the special parts isn't always easy.

For a company like Ford who invented the assembly line its actually incredibly easy for them. Their f150 line is 100% modular and can build any configuration of f150 next to any other f150.

This means one day they do not just run platinum, limitedss, or base models, it means they can run a platinum then a base model then a raptor then a base model then a limited then a platinum etc down the line all without stopping.

Watch TFLs video of their Raptor being built, its in the mix with every other vehicle and the 2017 is going to be no different.

"The Raptor is built right with the regular vehicles because they share so many commonalities." 'Essentially its built on the same assembly line as all the other vehicles".