GEN 2 Add me to the list of cam phaser replacements

[MattR]

They'll claim it is normal until they decide it is not normal. I can easily see dealers low-balling due to the rattle. "Well, it might be the cam phasers but it could also be something more serious. Best I can do is tree fiddy."

If you have the warranty, why not have it fixed? I understand the concern about cracking open an engine but if it breaks, they get to fix it.

At this point I will probably run it until the 8/125 warranty is up and then mod the hell out of the truck. I figure by then the price of parts should be low enough to not be a major problem.

Because the few larger things I’ve had corrected seemed to lead to other issues. One had a shimmy after getting differential work done. When I had my dash replaced in a truck I owned a few years ago, it rattled like crazy. I took the steering column trim and drivers knee area trim off and found loose and missing screws...who know what it looked like with the whole dash out.

 

[DINOZR]

Because the few larger things I’ve had corrected seemed to lead to other issues. One had a shimmy after getting differential work done. When I had my dash replaced in a truck I owned a few years ago, it rattled like crazy. I took the steering column trim and drivers knee area trim off and found loose and missing screws...who know what it looked like with the whole dash out.

This is what bothers me about the idea of the cam phaser replacement. When the truck is assembled at the factory it's done in a long series of steps. The human or robot that completes the step only does that step--all day long. That means they do it the same way every time, and probably according to their training.

Now go in for cam phaser replacement and they give one tech a truck and tell him "Tear it down to the cams, replace these precision parts, and then reinstall it all again" and you have opened up a Pandora's box of probabilities. I watch the video linked earlier, and the tech working on that guys truck doesn't seem completely "with it" to me. He also has parts stacked in ways that don't make it obvious which part came out first. All in all, it's sketchy, IMO.

 

[Fever]

I had cam phaser problem on my 2013 F150 Platinum. Can’t believe that I may have to deal with a repeat problem on my 2020 Raptor. WTF Ford?

 

[CoronaRaptor]

This is what bothers me about the idea of the cam phaser replacement. When the truck is assembled at the factory it's done in a long series of steps. The human or robot that completes the step only does that step--all day long. That means they do it the same way every time, and probably according to their training.

Now go in for cam phaser replacement and they give one tech a truck and tell him "Tear it down to the cams, replace these precision parts, and then reinstall it all again" and you have opened up a Pandora's box of probabilities. I watch the video linked earlier, and the tech working on that guys truck doesn't seem completely "with it" to me. He also has parts stacked in ways that don't make it obvious which part came out first. All in all, it's sketchy, IMO.

Yeah, that guy looks and acts like he was smoking something on his coffee break, dropping the cam phaser out of the truck, etc, etc. Also, what a pile of unorganized mess, that poor truck he had torn apart would never be the same. I did learn how cam phasers work though, at the expense of somebody's truck.

 

[Hagasan41]

Sad that Ford can't figure out a fix after 6 years...

 

[GCATX]

Sad that Ford can't figure out a fix after 6 years...

Keep up. It's been figured out.

 

[Hagasan41]

Keep up. It's been figured out.

Lol... apparently your definition of figured out doesn’t include a fix. Late model 2019’s were supposed to be figured out yet owners including myself are starting to have the issue.

 

[GCATX]

Lol... apparently your definition of figured out doesn’t include a fix. Late model 2019’s were supposed to be figured out yet owners including myself are starting to have the issue.

Really? How many I wonder? It's a dynamic part and shit is gonna happen. My understanding is that the new part is working great. Nothing is 100% though.

My early '18 is about to click over 50k, not a peep. If I do get a phaser issue, I will take it in for the fix and plan on at least another 50k quiet miles. Then it's going to the auction, cause I don't trust old stuff. lol.

 

[Hagasan41]

Really? How many I wonder? It's a dynamic part and shit is gonna happen. My understanding is that the new part is working great. Nothing is 100% though.

My early '18 is about to click over 50k, not a peep. If I do get a phaser issue, I will take it in for the fix and plan on at least another 50k quiet miles. Then it's going to the auction, cause I don't trust old stuff. lol.

With 6000 miles on my July ‘19 build shit shouldn’t be happening as it’s supposed to have the updated parts. But everyone’s tolerance is different and for me it’s unacceptable. Sounds like you’ve got a good one with 50k and no issues. Maybe mine was built on a Friday.

 

[FastEddie]

I've got about 7000 miles on my '19 and the dealer just diagnosed the truck as having the cam phaser problem. No shit. I brought it in last week and told them the cam phasers were fried. They say parts to fix are on back order so it will be towards the end of the month before they can fix. I am not exactly super pleased with this entire bunch of horseshit.