7.0 V8... Yes... Again

[Truckzor]

The Raptor is fast, it is faster than the Lightning, it is as quick as the 2007 Mustang GT and is 1000 pounds heavier at least. Also much bigger tires and offload suspension. It is a very quick truck. Anything quicker is either modded like crazy or is not a truck. My 911S is much faster, but it is much smaller and much lighter.

I just have a hard time calling anything in the low 14s fast. That's Honda Accord territory.

 

[Hockster]

So there are two new engines? 7.3 gas and 7.0 gas? Think one is a V8 and one is a V10?

What I heard is the 7.0L will be a special performance and the 7.3 will the new v8 6.8L replacement

 

[BurnOut]

Holy balls, this again. As has been mentioned elsewhere in the thread, if Ford decides that the Raptor needs more power, it's a hell of a lot easier to upgrade the turbos/tune than it is to install/certify a whole different engine. Add in the fact that dealers who price their EB Raptors fairly aren't having trouble moving inventory, and it's difficult to believe that Ford would go to the trouble/expense.

IMO, even the Ram Rebel TRX wouldn't necessarily be a motivator... look at the Hellcat Charger and the Trackhawk... Ford doesn't have an answer for either of those vehicles, and seems to be just fine with that fact. The long and short of it is that the Raptor was designed to be a balanced package... engine, transmission, suspension, drive modes, etc... all complimenting one another to offer an overall solution that offers a driver experience like nothing else on the market. The GT is another example of this philosophy... it's certainly not the most powerful car on the market, and if I had to guess, Ford's position on that is ZFG (Zero ***** Given)... because the overall package works.

 

[jabroni619]

Holy balls, this again. As has been mentioned elsewhere in the thread, if Ford decides that the Raptor needs more power, it's a hell of a lot easier to upgrade the turbos/tune than it is to install/certify a whole different engine. Add in the fact that dealers who price their EB Raptors fairly aren't having trouble moving inventory, and it's difficult to believe that Ford would go to the trouble/expense.

IMO, even the Ram Rebel TRX wouldn't necessarily be a motivator... look at the Hellcat Charger and the Trackhawk... Ford doesn't have an answer for either of those vehicles, and seems to be just fine with that fact. The long and short of it is that the Raptor was designed to be a balanced package... engine, transmission, suspension, drive modes, etc... all complimenting one another to offer an overall solution that offers a driver experience like nothing else on the market. The GT is another example of this philosophy... it's certainly not the most powerful car on the market, and if I had to guess, Ford's position on that is ZFG (Zero ***** Given)... because the overall package works.

All true statements, and it still doesn't make it impossible or even implausible.

I'm sure people said "they could just supercharge the 6.2 if they wanted more power" and "why would ford go through the trouble" when rumors started popping up that the Gen 2 raptor was dropping the V8 and going with an EcoBoost V6

 

[BC119]

There is a 0.0% chance that Ford puts a 7.0 in any of their non-commercial trucks. The only thing that motor will be going in is their 550, 650, 750. They are under a crunch to raise fleet fuel economy and you guys think they'll let you nutcases rip around in a 500+ whp 7.0 getting like 3mpg combined?

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I just have a hard time calling anything in the low 14s fast. That's Honda Accord territory.

I agree, there's quick and there's fast. The Raptor and even 3.5 Ecos in F150s are quick, but they're far from fast.

 

[maxemus]

When was the last time a ford truck made more power than their 400k$ supercar?



And the gen2 ecoboost is closer to being a gt engine than a Taurus engine. In fact it shares more parts with the ford gt than any other vehicle ford makes.

More like 550k


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[Truckzor]

They are under a crunch to raise fleet fuel economy and you guys thing they'll let you nutcases rip around in a 500+ whp 7.0 getting like 3mpg combined?

Probably not, but man wouldn't it be awesome?

Imagine how much power these things would have with a blower.

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And the gen2 ecoboost is closer to being a gt engine than a Taurus engine. In fact it shares more parts with the ford gt than any other vehicle ford makes.

What is your source for this? What parts do the two engines share?

 

[brc misfit]

Why is this an issue.?. If you believe the EcoBoost was the right choice for the raptor, then relish in the fact you made the right decision. But how many would dump your g2 for a V8 option.?.

 

[LVsFINEST]

We see GT500 leaks like a year in advance, yet not a single vid, pic or shred of evidence for a 7.0 Raptor. Don't get me wrong, I'd love it if it were true, but it ain't happening this year. If there's an update for 2019 it'll probably be pretty minor.

IMO, even the Ram Rebel TRX wouldn't necessarily be a motivator... look at the Hellcat Charger and the Trackhawk... Ford doesn't have an answer for either of those vehicles, and seems to be just fine with that fact. The long and short of it is that the Raptor was designed to be a balanced package... engine, transmission, suspension, drive modes, etc... all complimenting one another to offer an overall solution that offers a driver experience like nothing else on the market. The GT is another example of this philosophy... it's certainly not the most powerful car on the market, and if I had to guess, Ford's position on that is ZFG (Zero ***** Given)... because the overall package works.

While I agree Ford has no answer to the Trackhawk, they don't need to. They do however need an answer to anything threatening their Raptor brand. They're literally doubling down on off road vehicles and they're going to make sure they're seen as the top player in the space.

 

[Beauf]

Ford's strategy is to decrease the different production lines of vehicles and components, from engines to interior parts. This is boosting profits and cutting costs. Coming up with an engine just for the Raptor doesn't fit at all with their strategy. If they are ever going to put a bigger engine into the Raptor, it will be a tweaked version of something they are putting in a lot of vehicles, so a boosted 5.0 seems plausible. A vehicle specific 7.0 or 7.3? Not likely. They are working toward going all in with the Ecoboost engines and reversing course for their non-commercial line doesn't make any sense.