7.0 V8... Yes... Again

[Truckzor]

Are you sure? By your logic it is.

Yes, I am certain that bologna is not filet mignon. You're distorting my logic, most likely because you lack the ability to think logically.

Well of course not because my truck doesn't have a Taurus motor in it. The same displacement and aspiration don't make it the same. I guess you think the 1969 Z/28 had a Mustang motor in it. They we both normally aspirated and 302 c.i.d. Must be the same.

This is not at all consistent with the logic I have applied. Let me try to explain this in a way you will understand. The Taurus SHO has bologna for an engine. Your truck has bologna for an engine. It is the same size, shape, and weight but it has slightly higher calories because some of the ingredients used were changed ever so slightly. But it is the same basic product from the same manufacturer in the same basic layout.

You're ignorance never ceases to amaze.

I think you mean "your".

 

[EricM]

It's the same basic engine that was originally designed for the Taurus SHO.

Well **** man- I guess you could argue it's the "same basic engine" design as any other V6 OHC ever made as well.

Let's just say you aren't going to find many part numbers that interchange between a 2018 SHO and a 2018 Raptor engine.

Have you seen both close up in detail?

 

[Truckzor]

Have you seen both close up in detail?

No but I'm sure the engine covers look a lot different. The Taurus one probably says "SHO" on it. Am I right?

 

[crash457]

Yes, I am certain that bologna is not filet mignon. You're distorting my logic, most likely because you lack the ability to think logically.

I distorted nothing. You used extremely broad logic. You compared two engines that share little more than the fact that they are both 3.5L and turbo charged. Bologna and filet mignon are both beef products. By your broad logic they would be the same.

This is not at all consistent with the logic I have applied. Let me try to explain this in a way you will understand. The Taurus SHO has bologna for an engine. Your truck has bologna for an engine. It is the same size, shape, and weight but it has slightly higher calories because some of the ingredients used were changed ever so slightly. But it is the same basic product from the same manufacturer in the same basic layout.

So a completely new engine casting, new rotating assembly, and a new fuel injection system is "changed ever so slightly"? It's hard to be consistent with your logic when your logic is so inconsistent. The only thing consistent with you is your trolling. Why so much butthurt over the engine in a truck you don't own? What happened to make you so angry? Did you wife leave you for a guy with a Gen2? Would it help if I sent you a gift card for a bologna dinner at Outback?

I think you mean "your".

I'll own my grammar mistake. I got sloppy and made a typo. It still doesn't devalue my post.

 

[Truckzor]

I distorted nothing. You used extremely broad logic. You compared two engines that share little more than the fact that they are both 3.5L and turbo charged. Bologna and filet mignon are both beef products. By your broad logic they would be the same.

There is nothing broad about my logic. You have a souped up Taurus motor.

So a completely new engine casting, new rotating assembly, and a new fuel injection system is "changed ever so slightly"? It's hard to be consistent with your logic when your logic is so inconsistent. The only thing consistent with you is your trolling. Why so much butthurt over the engine in a truck you don't own? What happened to make you so angry? Did you wife leave you for a guy with a Gen2? Would it help if I sent you a gift card for a bologna dinner at Outback?

I'm not angry. Do I seem angry? I only dipped back into this thread when people started claiming that Ford would produce a brand new (revolutionary, not evolutionary) 7.0 DOHC V8 but wouldn't be able to make it out power a souped up Taurus motor.

I'll own my grammar mistake. I got sloppy and made a typo. It still doesn't devalue my post.

No, the lack of logic in your emotionally driven post is what devalues it.

Why does it bother you so much that your engine was originally developed for the Taurus SHO, anyway?

I've always thought they were pretty cool cars.

 

[BurnOut]

The Taurus SHO has bologna for an engine. Your truck has bologna for an engine. It is the same size, shape, and weight but it has slightly higher calories because some of the ingredients used were changed ever so slightly. But it is the same basic product from the same manufacturer in the same basic layout.

...says the guy who has literally a short-bus engine is his truck (check the Ford engine options): https://thomasbuiltbuses.com/school-buses/minotour/

 

[Truckzor]

...says the guy who has literally a short-bus engine is his truck (check the Ford engine options): https://thomasbuiltbuses.com/school-buses/minotour/

That doesn't bother me at all. Though the engine was originally developed with racing applications in mind, when detuned, it is very well suited to doing work. It makes a ton of low end power and is extremely durable and reliable. It is a truck motor. Not a Taurus motor.

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By the way, it's also a boat motor. You may not know this, but in the boating world, reliability, durability, and flat torque curves are key.

https://www.indmar.com/

 

[BurnOut]

That doesn't bother me at all. Though the engine was originally developed with racing applications in mind, when detuned, it is very well suited to doing work. It makes a ton of low end power and is extremely durable and reliable. It is a truck motor. Not a Taurus motor.

There ya go... own it, brotha.

As for your assertion that the Taurus motor and the HO EB in the Raptor are the same motor, that's like saying that a Vortec 350 (Chevy) is the same thing as an LS1... same(-ish) displacement at 5.7L, same engine configuration, same manufacturer... when in fact there's a different block, a different crank, different rods, different pistons, different heads, different intakes, different water pumps, different engine management, etc..., and there are in fact more differences than similarities.

However the GT engine shares a lot with the Raptor engine... but that doesn't fit your narrative, so feel free to ignore those facts.

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That doesn't bother me at all. Though the engine was originally developed with racing applications in mind, when detuned, it is very well suited to doing work. It makes a ton of low end power and is extremely durable and reliable. It is a truck motor. Not a Taurus motor.

---------- Post added at 02:58 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:47 PM ----------

By the way, it's also a boat motor. You may not know this, but in the boating world, reliability, durability, and flat torque curves are key.

https://www.indmar.com/

I do know that, as it happens. Unfortunately, I also know that the HO EB 3.5 has a flatter torque curve than the 6.2L.

 

[TXRaptor]

This is good...

I own both, so I get the awesome sound of the V8 when I want it and the awesome power of the TT V6 when I want to go faster...

 

[crash457]

There is nothing broad about my logic. You have a souped up Taurus motor.

That is as you called it "Fake News".

I'm not angry. Do I seem angry? I only dipped back into this thread when people started claiming that Ford would produce a brand new (revolutionary, not evolutionary) 7.0 DOHC V8 but wouldn't be able to make it out power a souped up Taurus motor.

You definitely seem angry. Mostly since you can't seem to make a single post without coming off like a self righteous ****** who can't deal with the fact that the ecoboost Raptor makes more power than the 6.2 did when it came out. Your constant anti-ecoboost agenda is just your way of coping. Time to let it go. Newer vehicle are always an improvement. The Gen2 outperforms the Gen 1 and it should. The Gen3 will outperform the Gen2 and so on. You can still enjoy your Gen1 without being an ******. I've seen many others her do it.

Oddly though, I agree that a 7.0 V8 should make more power than an ecoboost, but then why shouldn't it. Sadly it will likely not be going in the Raptor, so it doesn't matter here.

No, the lack of logic in your emotionally driven post is what devalues it.

Why does it bother you so much that your engine was originally developed for the Taurus SHO, anyway?

I've always thought they were pretty cool cars.

It seems that it is you that is lacking logic and letting emotion drive your posts. I would not be bothered what my engine was developed for. The Mustang SVO had an engine from a Pinto. Origin is not relevant in execution. That said, the 302 was derived from the 289 which was derived from the 260. Everything has a predecessor, that doesn't make them the same. The fact that the Raptor uses an entirely new engine block casting (as well as most of it's components) would in and of itself negate your logic. Your logic in using it as a comparison is your way to over exaggerate to try to validate your contempt for the Gen2 Raptor. It may surprise you to know that no one cares if you like the Gen2 or it's engine.