2nd Gen Raptor Resale Value after TRX Release

[Braaaaptor]

I tried looking but doesn’t seem the specs are completely out yet.

Does anyone know how heavy the power boost system would be?

As in how much heavier would the gen 2 raptor be if Equipped with the power boost set up?

Can’t really compare the gen 3 weight yet since it would have a different rear suspension which we don’t have details to estimate weight yet.

For semantics sake I used Tesla to benchmark all of the weights for their battery/motor. The weight of a Telsa bettery pack is 1200lbs for the 85kWh battery which gives 1200/85 = 14.1 lbs/kWh. The powerboost battery pack is a modest 1.5kWh so multiply 1.5x14.1 = 21.1lbs for the powerboost batterypack. A quick google search finds that 70lbs is the claimed weight of a Tesla electric motor (seems resaonable given how simple electic motors are).

Add it all up and you're adding about 90 lbs for the Powerboost drivetrain. One giant asterisk would be how Ford can package the motor and batterypack which may increase/decrease those weights.

 

[txgunsntrucks]

Was creeping on some Ram forums and the general consensus is:

-Markup is $15-20k already

-Most agree value will severely plummet within a few years

because historically that is how all of these types of vehicles go.

 

[FordTechOne]

For semantics sake I used Tesla to benchmark all of the weights for their battery/motor. The weight of a Telsa bettery pack is 1200lbs for the 85kWh battery which gives 1200/85 = 14.1 lbs/kWh. The powerboost battery pack is a modest 1.5kWh so multiply 1.5x14.1 = 21.1lbs for the powerboost batterypack. A quick google search finds that 70lbs is the claimed weight of a Tesla electric motor (seems resaonable given how simple electic motors are).

Add it all up and you're adding about 90 lbs for the Powerboost drivetrain. One giant asterisk would be how Ford can package the motor and batterypack which may increase/decrease those weights.

Interesting way to derive some numbers, but the unfortunate reality is that the PowerBoost option will be much heavier than 90lbs. Even a Fusion Hybrid is 285lbs heavier than a standard Fusion with the same size engine.

The issue is that there are more components than just the battery and motor; the High Voltage harnesses are heavy gauge wire and contribute significantly to the extra weight.

Going from the standard 10R80 to the 10R80MHT transmission adds 90lbs, and then you have additional hybrid specific components like the DC/DC converter, BECM, BCCM, and High Voltage BJB.

I would anticipate a significant weight increased for the PowerBoost hybrid; I think the main appeal of it is going to be in town fuel economy and the on board generator capabilities.

 

[txgunsntrucks]

Cool looking truck. Don't think it's even in the same category as far as price as the raptor.

Therefore I don't see one taking much of the others business.

optioned out at 80+k. **** that noise.

 

[Ali 556]

There is more to this than just pure HP.

the raptor is a specialty truck that was designed to be used off road. The TRX seems to be aimed at the mall crawling crowd.

A 6000 lb, nose heavy 700hp truck is useless on the dirt at speed.

I can’t wait to start seeing the yolo videos on the youtube of the TRX flying into a tree or doing an endo when they try and jump it over 30mph.

I disagree,

For sales, the main attraction is the "702hp",

Again

Super charger 5.2, will be with 100lbs of the twin turbo v6, and a mild hybrid battery under the rear seats.

The off-road legend will not be affected.

 

[TheBlueRealm]

I think I'll wait to see what comes of this:

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[DFS]

Big part of me hopes Ford doesn't even entertain a supercharged V8, the Powerboost is a much more forward thinking option. These offroad trucks aren't supposed to only battle it out on raw horsepower. I really don't want this to develop into Mustang v Challenger. Emphasis on offroad ability while creeping around 500 hp would be plenty for me. Again, the Raptor will be the better offroad truck, and daily driver for some, TRX is the same as all other Hellcat's, a one trick pony that dips it's toes into water it doesn't belong in. Can't even imagine it handles 702 horsepower well with a coil over rear set up going through turns on pavement at speed

 

[David1986]

As others have stated if they decide to put a Supercharged V8 and coil spring suspension on it, the MSRP will be north of $85-$90K. At this point you start losing customers and insurance gets even more insane.

This would be Great for the Ford Enthusiast, but not for the average owner. Average buyer likes the aggressive look and novelty of the Raptor (Cool factor) and could care less what's under the hood. Probably doesn't even look under the hood at purchase. ( I didn't).

I've owned both a Gen 1 and two Gen 2's and I would be priced out of ownership for my comfort zone. Only reason I've owned two Gen 2's is the first one I picked up used with 5K miles on it and my current 2020 was a deal below invoice that I came across not really looking for.

I will most likely go back to a diesel next time, if they take a huge price increase. Gen 1 to Gen 2 on average went from $58K to $72 for an average 802 package.

It will be interesting to see what Ford does with all the Speculation and click bait internet post.

 

[RAPTERRIER]

 

[nikhsub1]

That's awesome, but all those cars up there suck IMO. GT 500 will **** all of them. Plus, it can actually turn and do twisties.