I haven't kept too many tabs on the gen 3 stuff but this refresh seems like everything has gone a bit backwards save the dual valve shocks (which would be sweet to retrofit onto a gen 2) and the new R wheels, which I think look insanely cool, but also look like a c*nt to clean. Still mind boggled that these trucks are coming with open front diffs. Even the ranger raptor at nearly half the price has a front locker from the factory...
I got my 2022 Raptor 37 price locked at the 2021 launch of $78k MSRP, a comparable 2024 is now $94k...yeahhhh I'm going to keep this truck for years to come.
This is how I feel about my gen 2. Paid a tick under 70k after tax for a mildly optioned 801A truck. I like the gen 3 and it had a lot of cool stuff but it's not 15-20k more cool IMO. The base price on a king ranch used to be more than the base price on a raptor, now that's flipped and the raptor is the most expensive base price F150
What is it it with all the fruitcake snowflake automotive journalists???
This has always been automotive journalists as long as I can remember. They're just journalists reading spec sheets and telling people they have an "inside source" or some garbage along those lines.
Overall, disappointed. I probably won't buy another new raptor.
Under the 4x4 category on the build and price it says two speed AWD transfer case with mechanical locking 4x4. Does this mean a 2wd position is no longer available?
Color choices aren't very good either. Just not impressed.
No, it's just weird wording. 2wd is still available, they'd suffer a big hit on fuel economy if the truck couldn't be held in 2wd.
I impulse-ordered a Ranger Raptor in Shelter Green primarily because of the color... Wasn't a fan of the Gen 3 design initially but it's grown on me, and I think this refresh is objectively worse - but I'll be damned if I'm not tempted by the availability of Shelter Green again
After seeing that the ranger raptor starts at 55k and all the features is has it honestly seems like a super solid deal given how crazy prices have gotten for everything else on the market today. If I didn't need to pull a car trailer I'd maybe consider trading my gen 2 in for one.
Yes BS but doesn’t apply to Raptors (comes standard with full activation).
I guess it’s an interesting choice to include all the equipment on lower models like XLTs and you always have the option to subscribe later instead of paying up front.
BMW tried the subscription thing with heated seats. They're backpedaling hard now. Talk about being disconnected from consumers...
So the R is to have more power! Why the heck couldn't they throw the 3.5 peeps another 25HP at least or get it up to 500HP!!! I would be sure many with 21-23's would jump on a '24 then. Maybe maybe Gen 4 will reach that level if not hybridized by then.
Fuel economy and emissions come before power, even on performance variants. I worked development on the gen 3 3.5L while I was an engineer at Ford, meeting emissions requirements and getting the power to where it is was a complex balancing game. Don't get me started on how much ******** the EPA and government has pulled that has put automotive manufacturers in such tight spots.