2023 Torsen?

[Zybane]

Anyone wanna trade a '22 37PP Torsen for a '23 37PP Azure Gray with 200 miles on it, LOL!

Still cannot believe they are putting open diffs in all these Raptors now.

 

[HighwaySentinel]

The engineers felt electronic braking inputs were more effective. Maybe someone should go out and test how well it works or doesn’t work before getting their thong in a bunch.

 

[Zybane]

Electronic braking traction control is reactive trash and never compares to physical components. Companies always say that shit to save money.

I've emailed Torsen to see if they know if I can install one in the '23. It looks like the old part number may be M-4204-F150LS.

 

[NJ2020]

Has anyone actually confirmed Torsen is removed on 801a? Feel like this is just a rumor. Engineers made it clear the 802a doesn’t have it and had a beefed up front diff, that’s it.

Order guide has no mention of it being removed.

 

[Zybane]

Mention of Torsen front axle was removed from the 2023 F150 order guide for Raptor but has it for Tremor. From the 2023 Owners Manual, they also removed the mention of Torsen from the Raptor and now the Torsen is only mentioned once in the manual as a "Tremor Torsen axle". So basically ****** 23+ Raptor owners.

I found this part number on my front axle:

2021-2023 Ford F-150 Differential S-988-K | parkwayford

2021-2023 Ford F-150 Differential S-988-K

parts.parkwayford.com

But it doesn't actually say what kind of differential is in there.

I may put the truck up on jack stands and do some testing.

 

[SurfRaptor]

Has anyone actually confirmed Torsen is removed on 801a? Feel like this is just a rumor. Engineers made it clear the 802a doesn’t have it and had a beefed up front diff, that’s it.

Order guide has no mention of it being removed.

I agree on this. We need to confirm and would have to add this to the list of items removed off the 23's. My 22 is looking better and better with each delivery. This is ridiculous if it's true.

 

[Zybane]

Websites like this say the '23 Raptor has Torsen is BS:

With More Standard Content, 2023 F-150 Raptor Pricing Is Expected To Jump

The pricing for the 2023 Ford F-150 Raptor will see a significant drop as the equipment group gets more advanced

www.musclecarsandtrucks.com

Also says the Raptor has Blue cruise which is BS.

 

[Zybane]

2021 Tech Specs mentions optional Torsen, no mention of Torsen in 2023:

https://media.ford.com/content/dam/fordmedia/North%20America/US/product/2021/f150/raptor/pdf/2021-Ford-F-150-Raptor-Tech-Specs.pdf

https://media.ford.com/content/dam/fordmedia/North%20America/US/product/2023/raptor/raptor-r/2023-Raptor-R-Spec-Sheet.pdf

Like 99.9% sure 2023+ don't have Torsen up front. So 21-22 trucks will be more valuable for those that off-road.

 

[enjoitheride]

Do we know if this can be added? What a kick in the nuts. I had no idea it was removed. I thought the R was the only one. This purchase is being met with more and more regret, everytime.

 

[Zybane]

I think I may have found a saving grace:

09-24 F150 8.8" IFS ARB Air Locker Front Differential

www.stage3motorsports.com

Would be even better for me than the Torsen. But would probably put me out $5K+ for install. Gotta pay to play I guess. I could even hook the locking/unlocking to an overhead Aux switch.