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[nikhsub1]

Sad to see the socialist on this forum.
No one is making you buy a Raptor.
In case you missed the 9th grade, supply and demand rule the market place.
Why don't you sale your home or used car for what is was worth a year ago instead of taking advantage of folks.
The stupidity of the average American is repulsive. This country was built on competition, not socialism.
Get a life snowflake.

My guess is you live in a welfare state.

 

[RCorsa]

Supply and demand for sure. I paid 69K for my Gen 2 two and a half years ago and sold it last month for 76K. My buddy just paid 35 K for a first year gen 1 with 150,000 miles on it today outside of Dallas. As I knew I wanted a new truck I ordered a 22 in October and got a great deal but ford cant get truck built And no production in site. So I have been without a truck the last 3 week. I decided I needed a F250 and they are going for 10K over for Lariets and Platinuns everywhere. I must have called 50dealers with stuff coming in. I finally said f it and bought a Shelby Baja for MSRP of 128K Which seemed like a decent “deal”in this market. Truck gets here next week

 

[Frank N]

When Camrys and Accords are selling for MSRP, one cannot be surprised that many Raptors have an ADM...someone wants to pay ADM, that's there choice.

Of course, ADM is not my choice, I will keep slumming in my Gen 2 with a pathetic 3.5 v6.... rofl.

 

[crc]

call it greed, supply and demand, survival. whatever you want this isn't a debate. my brother in law is a sales manager at a dealer he said they've had to lay off sales people. A lot of these dealers have no choice but to sell for more money. they have no cars to sell and these salespeople don't get paid nearly enough without commission. they need commission. I just got mine and my salesman 5 times said thank you. He said he's getting half the deals he normally has so if it was for ADM the dealer couldn't keep their salespeople. obviously we can afford these raptors and probably more expensive vehicles. first world problems. think about some of these salesman and how much an extra 500 for a sale or 1000 for a sale in the course of a month. by no means to I trust or defend these stealerships cus they definitely deserve all the bad press they get.

Is it a little overboard I say Yes more like a lot. but

the facts are its nothing like most of us has ever seen in our lifetime and hopefully will never see again to this degree ever again. covid, politics, etc has the supply chains so messed up. lets just hope we are near the point where we can at least see some change for the better.

when it comes ADM. how many of you complained at all when you got 5k or more for your used cars. or paid under MSRP on your previous vehicles. I know I didnt complain at all.. sold one in November about 5k more than I could have got a year ago and traded in my 18' gen2. which I bought fir 5 k under sticker and sold for about 5 k more than I could have a year ago.

so yes I paid ADM and dont care because in the big picture math is math. 5k on one 5k on the other plus the 5k I saved. I am ahead by 15k. so now I could have paid 15k above and still have a wash. didn't need to, they wanted 10k. but I got them down to $5750 over. cus I said id finance thru them and bought some accessories.


thats my take. may be totally missing something but I will sleep fine tonight.

Definitely two sides to this issue , it’s free markets and everyone can vote with their wallets .

 

[elking]

I’m looking to buy a 2022 Honda atv rancher 4x4. Every dealer I called near me had ADM!! Go figure. At first I thought it’s a joke but it’s not. it’s supply vs demand.