2021 Factory mounted generator from Ford?

[jamanrr]

7.2 kw is key, I am wondering if they will use it to fast charge their hybrid systems. Is this available on all F150 models as an option?

 

[richnot]

What I'm saying is that this would be a benefit to those who want a generator when they are off the pavement and having to carry one along with them or am I misinterpreting what they mean by generator? Would it be able to provide any power source when the Truck is parked at a campsite?

 

[richnot]

The generators are built into the bed side of the truck and run off of the hybrid engine/batteries when needed...totally different electrical system...not sure what you were referencing with regards to "getting one and mounting it up." Completely incompatible with current gen F150s of all flavors.

Given the spy shots it's very likely the gen3 has the powerboost. The 7.2kw will run stuff like a full size home dryer all day long so will be interesting to see the sort of trail rigs people build off of it. Could see a lot of yetis and similar products on the second hand market if the truck can run it all itself.

I did not know that it this was something that was just specific to the Hybrid or could it be used by someone who wanted to use their truck and an Overlander? I did know that it's only purpose would be to recharge the batteries on the truck. I guess the terminology is what got me confused, from system regeneration, to system charging to a plain old generator to what every other manufacture calls it along with the outside world can get confusing

 

[CoronaRaptor]

I did not know that it this was something that was just specific to the Hybrid or could it be used by someone who wanted to use their truck and an Overlander? I did know that it's only purpose would be to recharge the batteries on the truck. I guess the terminology is what got me confused, from system regeneration, to system charging to a plain old generator to what every other manufacture calls it along with the outside world can get confusing

I believe it is going to be a generator but not run off carbon fuels but off of battery cells, obviously you would have to run your truck engine to charge the batteries or even plug it in after a long day on the job. Hybrids now have to use the gas engine to keep the batteries charged, then the electric motors can operate and allow the gas engine to shut off and on as needed. To use a large generator, the oem's would have to supply a large enough cell charge to allow for extended use of electricity. Think of it as solar panels on your roof of a house, if there is enough charge in the batteries it will run your fridge, etc. I could be wrong, just my brain theorizing the concept.

 

[BillVickers]

Nope, I'm in your camp.

There is three of us now.

 

[richnot]

Is that really the HP range we think a powerboost Raptor is going to be in? My understanding was that 600 would be the high end of possibility, not the low end.

The new Ford GT Supercar is running a Ecoboost V6 and its on their site at 647 hp. I don't know if it is a sister engine to the Raptor ecoboost with better internals and bigger turbos etc. or what ?

https://www.ford.com/performance/gt/

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Is that really the HP range we think a powerboost Raptor is going to be in? My understanding was that 600 would be the high end of possibility, not the low end.

The Lincoln Aviator Hybrid has 494 HP on a 3L V6. So I would imagine they can at least get 550 HP on the new Raptor w/ the PowerBoost (PB). I wouldn't think the HP would exceed over 600 HP on a 3.5L V6 PB. Torque should be around 650-700 depending on the HP.

 

[jamanrr]

I believe it is going to be a generator but not run off carbon fuels but off of battery cells, obviously you would have to run your truck engine to charge the batteries or even plug it in after a long day on the job. Hybrids now have to use the gas engine to keep the batteries charged, then the electric motors can operate and allow the gas engine to shut off and on as needed. To use a large generator, the oem's would have to supply a large enough cell charge to allow for extended use of electricity. Think of it as solar panels on your roof of a house, if there is enough charge in the batteries it will run your fridge, etc. I could be wrong, just my brain theorizing the concept.

So, you can recharge this system via a EV level 2 setup? Do you know or are you guessing?

 

[richnot]

I believe it is going to be a generator but not run off carbon fuels but off of battery cells, obviously you would have to run your truck engine to charge the batteries or even plug it in after a long day on the job. Hybrids now have to use the gas engine to keep the batteries charged, then the electric motors can operate and allow the gas engine to shut off and on as needed. To use a large generator, the oem's would have to supply a large enough cell charge to allow for extended use of electricity. Think of it as solar panels on your roof of a house, if there is enough charge in the batteries it will run your fridge, etc. I could be wrong, just my brain theorizing the concept.

So it is basically a Large Prius like 911 Crazy has. I understand the workings of an hybrid but I have not heard of a generator on a truck other than a carbon powered one.

So if you would be able to use it as a power supply why would they call it a generator? Not just call it a power source? Regenerative systems put power back into the batteries and this is why i am confused , (along with many other reasons) My solar panels are considered a power generator but I do not have a battery storage system, what I don not use gets banked based off of the meter readings and I draw off of that in the winter months. Does that mean the truck will have a gas engine and a battery cell and a regenerator and a Pro Power onboard generator with either 2.3 kw and 7.2 kw ? I believe it is Jeep that is using their torque converter as a part of their hybrid system and a battery cell and when applying the brakes or slowing down it puts energy back into the battery along with the engine providing power to the battery. From what I have read I think it is good for just a little over 40 miles of straight electric power
I`m confused...... Till this

https://news.pickuptrucks.com/2020/06/5-fun-facts-about-the-2021-f-150s-onboard-generator.html

 

[melvimbe]

I did not know that it this was something that was just specific to the Hybrid or could it be used by someone who wanted to use their truck and an Overlander? I did know that it's only purpose would be to recharge the batteries on the truck. I guess the terminology is what got me confused, from system regeneration, to system charging to a plain old generator to what every other manufacture calls it along with the outside world can get confusing

Just looked at the Ford site. There appear to be 4 power options for bedside power,

400W - non-powerboost only (included)
2.0KW - non-powerboost only ($995 option)
2.4KW - powerboost (included)
7.2KW - Powerboost ($995 option)

Pretty sure 400W is only available with engine running. It's the same 400W inverter we have on current options. Not sure on the 2.0KW option. That would imply that there an additional battery for this that's charged by the engine like a hybrid. The two powerboost options are surely available without engine running, as long as battery has juice.

As a side note regarding the camping them, how long before we see a solar panel charging aftermarket option for the powerboost?