2019 Roush 9k miles, bent my frame need advice

[Deleted member 17706]

In my case I was at a deadstop in traffic and was rearended by someone at speed. Rear bumper was pushed into the frame which caused the frame to get bent up and the tailgate was damaged, and the bed was bent up. Also I was pushed into a car in front in a chain reaction so there was some front damage, but the most damaged was the rear. It seemed repairable and I took it to my dealer and they thought it was repairable, however insurance totaled it.

I had paid $56k OTD in 2014 for my truck which was an 801A loaded SCREW. I got a check for $53.5k in August 2018 after they totaled it. They said they based the value on comparable trucks sitting on dealer lots in the area. I was pretty happy with that and got a 2019.

How many miles did you have on the truck? That is a crazy value for a 4 year old vehicle.

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@RDFTS did the same thing on his Gen 1.

 

[BDF]

Damn, SCORE!

 

[Joe12345]

Do you work for Ford or are an employee? I ask because you defend this brand relentlessly.

Is there something wrong with being proud of the product your company puts out? I don’t think it’d be in the best interests of a guy who’s username is FORDTECH to bash the brand publicly.

 

[Droid]

There's a Youtuber, "Westen Champlain" who rebuilt a 2018 that had tried to eat a tree in the front corner.

He had to do an entirely new frame because there was damage on the middle section as well that wasn't all that obvious. See end of this video:

I may be naive in saying this, but if I my truck took a hard hit and they wanted to repair it, I'd be much more comfortable with the idea of a full-frame replacement than a replaced section. I'd rather have Ford do the welding than some guy that works in a body shop. Think full frames are around $5-7k.

 

[Joe12345]

It’s amazing to me that these frame replacements are becoming more common. My dispatcher bought a brand new 2019 Tacoma, and was t ***** when a woman ran a stoplight, with less than a thousand miles on the truck. She hit him at around 30 miles an hour right at the drivers B pillar, and we thought for sure the truck was destroyed. A month later he had his truck back with a brand new full frame and new sheet metal. You’d honestly have no idea that the truck was hit.

Interestingly, he was able to sue the woman’s insurance company and recouped the difference between the value of the truck vs the newly diminished value.

 

[isis]

It’s amazing to me that these frame replacements are becoming more common. My dispatcher bought a brand new 2019 Tacoma, and was t ***** when a woman ran a stoplight, with less than a thousand miles on the truck. She hit him at around 30 miles an hour right at the drivers B pillar, and we thought for sure the truck was destroyed. A month later he had his truck back with a brand new full frame and new sheet metal. You’d honestly have no idea that the truck was hit.

Interestingly, he was able to sue the woman’s insurance company and recouped the difference between the value of the truck vs the newly diminished value.

Toyota has replaced so many frames due to rust and recalls and lawsuits they kinda have down to a super refined process for it.

 

[BDF]

Sucks I cant sue myself...

 

[FordTechOne]

No trolling here, I do that at the lake. I think the truck is great, but at the $60k price point I got it for. The interior panel gaps, the intermittent backup camera, the loose wire harness clips around the engine bay and frame, the loose heat shield over exhaust that rubs on the driveshaft are some of the things I've found on my truck that you just don't find on brands with higher overall quality.

For having fun off road, there is certainly no better option straight from the factory.

The interior is above average for a pickup in this price range. The RAM may be better, but that was an all-new model for 2019. All new F-150 is coming for 2021.

Intermittent back up camera has nothing to do with "build quality". If the camera has an issue, bring it in for service and have it resolved. It's not like there is a known issue with the camera that can't be fixed.

As far as the wiring harness clips and heat shields, was your vehicle in an accident? I've seen more than my share of these trucks, and I've never once seen one with those issues that hadn't either been wrecked or tampered with.

 

[FordTechOne]

Do you work for Ford or are an employee? I ask because you defend this brand relentlessly. I had a Subaru Forrester XT with the turbo and it would go through water up to its windows. I would say with a lite truck tire installed it could go places a Raptor could not. I do not rock crawl but these are expensive trucks and should have better quality than some of the plastic bits and pieces that they put into them. The plastic bits are cheap, break quite easily and does not show quality is job one.

I do my best to be objective. If someone has a legitimate issue, I am always happy to help when I can. That being said, I don't stand for people making baseless...and often ridiculous...comments and assertions. I think I speak for the majority of the members here when I say that we're are here to contribute information, share experiences, and engage in the community. To me that means positive contributions, whether it be sharing an experience with a new modification, the locale of a great off road trail, or a fix for a factory issue. It doesn't include bitching. That doesn't help anyone.

What are referring to with "cheap plastic bits and pieces"? Coming from a Subaru, even an F-150 XL fleet truck is higher quality.

As far as a Subaru Forester XT, it's a cheap japanese station wagon. No, it cannot go through water "up to it's windows". No, it cannot go a single place a Raptor could not. It's a unibody car known for leaking head gaskets, catalytic converter failure, turbocharger bearing failure, cam seal leaks, failed transfer case clutches, CVT failure, and cracked piston ring lands. How do I know? I've fixed them all. Every Subaru engine from the EJ251 to the EJ257 either leaked oil from the head gaskets, consumed coolant, or cracked ring lands (turbo models, especially STi). I've made plenty of money replacing head gaskets on out of warranty Subarus with 75K miles, only to have them return again at 150K miles with the same failure due to the OEM design. Costs the owner $3500 each time, dealer price is $5500.

As far as modern Subarus...I'll let the reviews and company speak for themselves.

Company admittance of poor quality:

https://www.autonews.com/sales/subarus-stubborn-streak-low-us-grades

Long-term magazine publication exemplifying said poor quality:

https://www.motortrend.com/cars/subaru/ascent/2019/2019-subaru-ascent-long-term-update-6/

 

[Mister Pinky]

I do my best to be objective. If someone has a legitimate issue, I am always happy to help when I can. That being said, I don't stand for people making baseless...and often ridiculous...comments and assertions. I think I speak for the majority of the members here when I say that we're are here to contribute information, share experiences, and engage in the community. To me that means positive contributions, whether it be sharing an experience with a new modification, the locale of a great off road trail, or a fix for a factory issue. It doesn't include bitching. That doesn't help anyone.

What are referring to with "cheap plastic bits and pieces"? Coming from a Subaru, even an F-150 XL fleet truck is higher quality.

As far as a Subaru Forester XT, it's a cheap japanese station wagon. No, it cannot go through water "up to it's windows". No, it cannot go a single place a Raptor could not. It's a unibody car known for leaking head gaskets, catalytic converter failure, turbocharger bearing failure, cam seal leaks, failed transfer case clutches, CVT failure, and cracked piston ring lands. How do I know? I've fixed them all. Every Subaru engine from the EJ251 to the EJ257 either leaked oil from the head gaskets, consumed coolant, or cracked ring lands (turbo models, especially STi). I've made plenty of money replacing head gaskets on out of warranty Subarus with 75K miles, only to have them return again at 150K miles with the same failure due to the OEM design. Costs the owner $3500 each time, dealer price is $5500.

As far as modern Subarus...I'll let the reviews and company speak for themselves.

https://www.autonews.com/sales/subarus-stubborn-streak-low-us-grades


https://www.motortrend.com/cars/subaru/ascent/2019/2019-subaru-ascent-long-term-update-6/

You beat me to it albeit in a far more elegant manner. That claim on the Forester is absolute BS. Water up to it’s windows? That crap story may work to impress your neighbor at a backyard barbecue, but a few of us on here have actual mechanical experience.