2018 invoice pricing with sheet

[WannaRaptor62]

I sent you a pm. I think msrp and under will be easier to obtain in the next 6 months. Most dealers around me gave me msrp or under when pressed. I'm under msrp with an order in and found others lower than where I ordered. Edmunds is almost spot on for invoice pricing if you want to see how much room they have. Although I agree with the poster above that dealers charging an ADM don't really care if you have that info.

Agreed all the way around. Thanks for the PM.

 

[Frank N]

It all depends where you are in the country but MSRP will be easier to get as time goes on, if they produce a 2019 and 2020, expect to pay a lot closer to invoice in the out years, simple market saturation.

There are 49 2017's within a 100 miles of me listed on shop.ford. com, I bet many of them can be had at MSRP once the 2018's start showing up.

 

[jaz13]

It all depends where you are in the country but MSRP will be easier to get as time goes on, if they produce a 2019 and 2020, expect to pay a lot closer to invoice in the out years, simple market saturation.

There are 49 2017's within a 100 miles of me listed on shop.ford. com, I bet many of them can be had at MSRP once the 2018's start showing up.

It depends on where you live. If you are in an area that is struggling economically, then there might be Raptors that cannot sell for MSRP. But there are 100+ Raptors on lots by me, not because people cannot afford them, but people won't pay the $20k ADMs those dealers are charging. Dealers with a more "reasonable" $10k markup sold all of their trucks. With 2018s rolling off the line, people by me will probably be able to negotiate a $5k ADM on a year old truck. What a steal!

 

[Raptor911]

Invoice pricing is not a secret. Go build a 2017 at edmunds.com and it shows you invoice pricing. The 2018 build engine is up but it seems there are a few bugs which they should resolve in the coming weeks.

 

[fx4210]

It depends on where you live. If you are in an area that is struggling economically, then there might be Raptors that cannot sell for MSRP. But there are 100+ Raptors on lots by me, not because people cannot afford them, but people won't pay the $20k ADMs those dealers are charging. Dealers with a more "reasonable" $10k markup sold all of their trucks. With 2018s rolling off the line, people by me will probably be able to negotiate a $5k ADM on a year old truck. What a steal!

Yeah, the justice will come for the dealers that bought other dealer allocations at or slightly above MSRP who will now lose money if they sell for anything close to MSRP.

 

[jaz13]

Yeah, the justice will come for the dealers that bought other dealer allocations at or slightly above MSRP who will now lose money if they sell for anything close to MSRP.

My thoughts exactly. A few month ago I visited a local dealer with 40 on the lot for a test drive and to see the colors and options before I bought one out of state. They started at $20k over, but were willing to do $10k over on an October build that had been sitting on their lot for 6 months and had nearly 300 test drive miles on it. They said they couldn't go lower on the other Raptors because they ordered those from other dealers and paid over sticker for them. I had to laugh because it wasn't my responsibility to bail this dealer out of his greed fueled bad decision.

They still have over 30 2017s on the lot and will end up taking a bath on those. Even if they drop the price to MSRP, that's still a bad deal because now it's a year old truck. Some manager will probably get fired over that bad idea.

 

[fx4210]

My thoughts exactly. A few month ago I visited a local dealer with 40 on the lot for a test drive and to see the colors and options before I bought one out of state. They started at $20k over, but were willing to do $10k over on an October build that had been sitting on their lot for 6 months and had nearly 300 test drive miles on it. They said they couldn't go lower on the other Raptors because they ordered those from other dealers and paid over sticker for them. I had to laugh because it wasn't my responsibility to bail this dealer out of his greed fueled bad decision.

They still have over 30 2017s on the lot and will end up taking a bath on those. Even if they drop the price to MSRP, that's still a bad deal because now it's a year old truck. Some manager will probably get fired over that bad idea.

Wow that's a crazy number of trucks! What state was that in?

Yeah somebody should be fired over that decision.. I wonder what their next move is just cut their loses and try selling a ton of raptors at a loss or hold out.. once the 2018 start coming in that inventory is going to take a big hit.

 

[jaz13]

Colorado. It looks like they sold a few since I last looked. Now they only have 28 2017s sitting on the lot. They must be getting a little nervous and more willing to deal. But to these guys that is probably dropping to $10k over.

I think they still have a little breathing room because I assume most early 2018 builds are customer orders and we won't see many 2018s sitting on lots until the end of the year.

 

[jabroni619]

Yeah, the justice will come for the dealers that bought other dealer allocations at or slightly above MSRP who will now lose money if they sell for anything close to MSRP.

It's already starting to happen. A dealer near me had a 30k markup the first time I went in to look at a 2017. The last time I went in it was down to 20k. Not quite "justice" but a sign nonetheless. After the sales guy learned I had an '18 on order from another dealer, he offered to make me a "killer deal" on a '17

 

[xBryanHoodsx]

My thoughts exactly. A few month ago I visited a local dealer with 40 on the lot for a test drive and to see the colors and options before I bought one out of state. They started at $20k over, but were willing to do $10k over on an October build that had been sitting on their lot for 6 months and had nearly 300 test drive miles on it. They said they couldn't go lower on the other Raptors because they ordered those from other dealers and paid over sticker for them. I had to laugh because it wasn't my responsibility to bail this dealer out of his greed fueled bad decision.

They still have over 30 2017s on the lot and will end up taking a bath on those. Even if they drop the price to MSRP, that's still a bad deal because now it's a year old truck. Some manager will probably get fired over that bad idea.

Hahaha good screw that dealer sucks for everyone there that's going have to try sell them to some poor sucker