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Is this correct? Are they only making 5k or so Raptors? I’ve been wondering what production numbers are, where did you find this?

That doesn’t work when you are at fault. You can only go after DV against a third party.

Just as an example, when an uninsured idiot rear ended my wife, we couldn’t collect DV from our insurance company. They fixed the car, and that was that. When an underinsured idiot hit my car, my insurance company fixed my car, and included the DV claim as part of their “bill” to the...

That’s not how any DV claim I’ve done works. You can’t go after your own insurance company for DV. They’re not paying if you’re at fault. You file a DV claim against the other guys insurance company if they are at fault. That said, as soon as a body shop gets this, they’ll provide an estimate...

Raptor colors are listed on page 44 in the pdf. https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/threads/2023-f-150-order-guide-w-raptor-raptor-r-released.11725/

At this point, you'll probably be ordering a '23, and according to the order guides, you won't have the option of Atlas Blue.

Go to the pump, insert credit card, choose 93, put nozzle into fuel filler. Hold handle until full.

I’ll believe it when I see it stop. I’ve sent my letters to Ford on the matter; explaining that if I preorder a vehicle I damn well better be in an orderly line and receive it roughly in the order I placed it. I also pointed out that their allocation process forces me to choose between getting...

Realistically, that’s all it’ll be. An engine option, with possibly a little interior trim upgrades. I can’t see the suspension changing beyond simply spring/damper tuning.

I’m going for a 15k premium over a comparable Raptor.

Capitalism doesn’t require you to only think of yourself. It also doesn’t require you to think of others. That’s the wonderful thing about it. Your reasons are yours. As an example, if someone is uncomfortable with a deal, I’m unlikely to get involved in it. I chose to make deals that work for...

Call me a capitalist, but I’d rather the money go to the manufacturer. There’s more value there, and I can invest in that manufacturer through stock purchases to pad my bottom line too. I’ve heard the stories from friends with Teslas. There’s definitely a downside to having no dealer network...

As I said before though, I have no problem with dealers charging ADM. I simply will not purchase anything from them. My issue is that Ford has their antiquated allocation model. They need to fix that if they want to succeed in the EV world. Like it or not, Tesla has set the bar for EVs, and...

They are going beyond the normal transactional relationship that one would have with a dealer, and instead getting greedy. If they want a windfall instead of a customer, they will get neither from me.

Don’t even get me started in Government subsidies. Of any type.

It sounds like you did teach them well. I hope to get my girls there one day.

I have no issue with dealers charging ADM. I take issue with Fords allocation model which requires me to choose between ADM or not getting a truck. I never said ADM should end, but I do believe that it ruins customer perception of the dealer, and eventually of the brand as a whole. It’s very...

I always related it to cheeseburgers or tacos when I was a teenager. I’m trying to teach my kids the same concept though; a small Lego set takes them doing dishes for two weeks. It’s a good way to look at things in my opinion.

That’s good to hear, that the Gen 2 is that comparable. I do like the tech, interior, and overall looks of the Gen 3 better. If Gen 2 prices weren’t so close to Gen3 I’d probably get one. With the used market as crazy as it is right now though, I just can’t justify the Gen 2.

Not really. Capitalism doesn’t require the dealer allocation model. Capitalism would be me being able to place an order from any Ford dealer of my choosing, and get my truck in roughly the order that it was placed. This allocation model is closer to crony capitalism, although that implies...

I’m a bit bearish right now. It feels a lot like 2008. I’m assuming that we have a market crash similar to 08-09, and that will get rid of ADM. we also need the chip shortage to resolve itself, but I’m betting that happens in 6-8 months. This is one thing (the market) that I would love to be...

I guess I'll have to figure something out. Perhaps a twitter handle is good. Report bad dealers, and only bad ones, there. Send me any list that you have, Im going to start posting @badforddealers Im thinking that I'll put the offending dealers twitter handle in my post, as well as...

Eh, thats debatable. Yes the relationships are transactional, but having a good relationship (not necessarily friendship) is a real thing. The good ones will absolutely help you out even if its not padding their bottom line.

Im all for publicizing the greedy ones. Let them be known, and let the customers decide if they will ever give them their business again.

I thought that I liked AMB, but its just too dark and close to black for my tastes. I want a brighter color on a truck like the Raptor. Hell, I'd like to see more real colors available, give some choices like a grabber green, or a good yellow. Black, white, and silver is just boring. If there...