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Oh its way more than 10 degrees lol. Way Way way more. In south Texas hail storms bad enough to cause vehicular damage are pretty uncommon (ive never had a car damaged with hail), you're thinking Dallas area/NW panhandle area. Black under a 100 degree sun for 6-8 hours gets very hot. I've...

Yeah, it goes from can’t put a finger on the hood (cold engine) for more than 3 seconds with black to put your hand on the hood indefinitely with white. Giggidy

White and avalanche are my only color choices for really any car because of the Texas heat. You could easily cook a decent ribeye on a black car in July. White also shows paint issues by far the least. (desert pin strips/swirls)

I can't say enough good things about my buying experience at Chastang ford off the 610 loop in Houston, TX. Not that far from Corpus.... Ordered a 23 35 took 10 months as they said it would at MSRP. I walked in, they gave me KBB very good condition value on a 2020 trade. ZERO dealer add ons...

^^This, worst they can say is no. In general, getting a Raptor at MSRP with the configuration you want without ordering it and waiting forever is still an absolute win. Id be more worried about the thousands of dollars of useless dealer accessories they'll likely have tacked on that'll be...

Yeah I wish i had my insurance at my parents location. 13 miles down the road and a whole different pricing situation.

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Yeah i noticed a drop going from a 2020 to a 2023 35. I asked why, they said likely added safety features. That wouldn’t apply to a 21-23. I wonder if the R package puts it in a different category. If a lower ratio of Rs have been wrecked or stolen vs 35s maybe it’s considered lower risk. I...

There are two schools of thought on cash vs finance and the deal you can get. I know there are games to be played here. I’ve heard most cases being willing to finance can net you a better deal. (dealer gets a cut) If I’ve got the cash, I’ll finance then pay it off a month later. Could be...

The only way they can keep the Raptor even close in price to a F150 is using most of the same parts. They still gotta keep those fleet XLs affordable, can’t mess with fleet business. Not that a XL is all that cheap either these days.

The phenomenon I think we notice is you go longer and longer with no claims or tickets, your car gets older and less valuable which you’d assume would be less risk but rates always go up. My location must suck…lol

I don’t think the Scab actually weighed much less anyway and had a lower towing/payload capacity. Pretty hard to make a durable good lighter in a measurable amount for no price change and maintain durability. I’ll take 6000K lbs over the Porsche model of saving 40lbs for an extra 100K bucks.

If there is a trade involved and you do get under MSRP, they’ll likely make up for it on that end. I just wish Raptors qualified for X plan pricing.

Zip code and the risk rate of the vehicles seems to matter a lot assuming you have a good driving record. My C8 vette dropped my insurance down quite a bit from a SUV. Statistically they are driven a lot less than a 4 door SUV and tend to be garage kept so an over all less risky vehicle...

With all the cam phaser hysteria around here you’d think this was a 996 911 or V10 M5 forum. I’ll take a “get it fixed in 10K miles” issue vs a lot of other wild **** out there.

I had one of those as a rental in Florida once…wow that transmission was a mess. I’m sure that thing was on its last legs.

Yeah Texas is the same, which pretty much eliminates the general price saving advantage going with private party (And selling private party) I’m sure the dealer lobby doesn’t have anything to do with that. Sure it doesn‘t matter if you’re trading a 1993 Taurus for a Raptor, but when you’re...

Yeah a friend of mine who bought a powerboost was excited about “only needing 87”. He tried 93 once... No longer cares about the 80 cent/gal difference. About OTC drugs, I don’t know enough about Patent law or other various reasons why generic drugs can be 10% the price of name brand, but what...

This doesn’t surprise me. Friends and family with 2021+ ecoboost lariats etc only run 93 octane now after playing around with 87 and 91. They say it just behaves/performs better and gets better fuel econ.

Might as well throw in a 4 speed auto to keep things period correct.

Only the plastic ones, and it definitely wasn’t a guarantee those would leak either. A buddy of mine with a 2017 and a plastic pan has 100+K miles with no leaks. I 100% agree with the desire to have a V8 in a truck, but it’s no different than the manual/auto transmission debate. Sometimes an...

I was just going off all the Dyno runs, and I know they aren’t making those runs in gears 1-3 …more like 5 or 6. Did they have torque limits on gears 1-6? Also the compression ratio was increased. There were engine changes.

I had a thermostat go out at 40K miles or so. I had electrical issues and a front hub go out fairly early too. Sometimes when using the turn signal it would turn the headlights out, happened probably 15 or so times. The center screen was also a lot buggier. I get very little of that is...