Witnessed 2017 in person, cancelled order shortly after.

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Wfo

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Just picture it with two 5" tip Honda Civic fart cans looming under the rear bumper.
 

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I'd rather have really respectable HP and torque numbers than semi respectable numbers. You could get the same semi respectable numbers in a 2014 XLT...why use the same engine in an SVT vehicle?
 

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I'd rather have really respectable HP and torque numbers than semi respectable numbers. You could get the same semi respectable numbers in a 2014 XLT...why use the same engine in an SVT vehicle?

Your Gen2 logic isn't welcome here. This is a thread stating an honest ***** of the new Raptor. It's not the same as all the other 'oh, I'm so excited' threads. Don't get offended by it......
 

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I too am considering a heavier, slower, down on hp, low on twist, shorter travel, old shock, stone aged interior, sad transmission, boat anchor of a gas-a-holic gen 1.

I mean really folks. Both are cool trucks. Trump even won. Can't we all just be a fan and not an irrational troll. Troll'n in here is old'n in here.
 

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Had an opportunity to see the new 2017 in person. I just cannot do it. I cannot honestly purchase a Raptor with a V6 in it. The exhaust reminded me of my 1994 Ford Explorer V6. Just cannot live with that for the price. Completely different than what I was expecting.

Got my deposit back and now time to search for a 2014!


So you went out of your way to come here, get on the jen2 section which is mainly people who have already ordered and are very excited to receive there trucks, and you post how horrible the truck is??

What a troll.... you must be looking for attention.
 
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