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BRAPPPP
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I actually talked to whipple today and you still have to send PCM to tune they won't provide them handheld in order to "protect them"
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I actually talked to whipple today and you still have to send PCM to tune they won't provide them handheld in order to "protect them"
metronyc
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i will visit you friend at Hasett tomorrow , i talk with whipple and they will talk with Hasett , any way after that I'm ready to go with new tunes and set ups with the limitation of passing the state inspection .
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MTF
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Yeah, let them know I'm coming with the oil gear sets and brakes.
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Are you sure, then I misunderstood Mike, I'll shoot him email tomorrow.
Thanks
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Are you sure, then I misunderstood Mike, I'll shoot him email tomorrow.
Thanks
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BRAPPPP
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From mike
"Though it seems "old school", the reason the factory PCM has to come to us for the calibration is because it is an encrypted file developed by Ford Motor Co for our supercharger. You may not know this but Ford has a data base of calibrations that dealerships and aftermarket like Roush, Shelby and Livernois can pull calibrations from. The reason Ford encrypted these files is because they have a lot of money in the development of this calibration"
metronyc
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i talk to Whipple today on the phone and got same answer .
MTF
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Well then I'm corrected.
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Alright it's morning now and while I haven't talked to Mike yet about the whole SCT Tuner deal and what's involved.
And I do believe you guys don't get wrong but.....
I'm a little confused at the moment why they would offer a SCT Tuner Kit and still want you to send the PCM in.
This bugs me now. I'll have to wait till 11am EST before I can call..
Edit:
Alright it's morning now and while I haven't talked to Mike yet about the whole SCT Tuner deal and what's involved.
And I do believe you guys don't get wrong but.....
I'm a little confused at the moment why they would offer a SCT Tuner Kit and still want you to send the PCM in.
This bugs me now. I'll have to wait till 11am EST before I can call..
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metronyc
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one of the reasons to replace the tune is , i drove 2008 FX4 5.0 SC with custom tune and he beat my truck in a heart beat .
MTF
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It's also 1,200lbs. lighter then your Screw, and it's not running 35" tires,
so yeah I can see it being snappier even though it's a Triton 5.4L
so yeah I can see it being snappier even though it's a Triton 5.4L
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All,
The "standard" kit includes the 3.5" SC Pulley and larger intercooler core (under the blower). The larger core used to be an upgrade in the beginning but we made it the standard not long after we released the kits. With the standard kit, the factory PCM has to be sent to Whipple for the encrypted calibration. With this cal, the stock speed limit is retained for liability reasons and meant for a stock motor with stock exhaust (with the exception of a cat back system). We do offer upgrades to the "standard" kit which include: Larger heat exchanger with dual fans for $900 ($1250 if ordered separate), NGK colder spark plugs for $13ea, dual 68mm throttle body (good for about 15-20HP) for $600, and an SCT calibration for $250 (SCT cal can adjust for top speed limit and long tube headers in NON Emissions States Only) ($500 if ordered separate), 3.25" SC pulley and belt for $0 ($230 if ordered separate) if added on at the time of the kit order. We do not do custom calibrations for modified motors.
BRAPPPP,
Most of our conversation was via email and regarding a "previously purchased" kit you were looking to get from a dealer that was purchased from us in 2012. You also stated that you were looking to add LT headers as well. Like I stated to you in the email and above, I can not do a LT header cal for you as you are in CA because of emissions reasons so I did not offer you the SCT upgrade. Also, If you do want the SCT cal upgrade for the Ford Blue kit you were looking to purchase, it would not be the $250 price stated above as the kit was already sold a standard kit. It would be $500 (cal and tool). This is because the calibration price that we pay the engineers is already rolled into the price of the kit. If a calibration is purchased separate or after the fact, we need to charge for the calibration again.
If you order the kit with the SCT upgrade, the factory PCM does not have to be sent in to us for any reason. If you send the PCM to Whipple for the standard calibration and later decide you want to do a custom tune, the PCM will either have to come to us to be reset to stock or taken to the dealer to do so. As stated, the standard Whipple cal is encrypted and can not be saved or altered in any way.
I hope this clears up any confusion you guys had and feel free to email or call me if you have any further questions of concerns.
The "standard" kit includes the 3.5" SC Pulley and larger intercooler core (under the blower). The larger core used to be an upgrade in the beginning but we made it the standard not long after we released the kits. With the standard kit, the factory PCM has to be sent to Whipple for the encrypted calibration. With this cal, the stock speed limit is retained for liability reasons and meant for a stock motor with stock exhaust (with the exception of a cat back system). We do offer upgrades to the "standard" kit which include: Larger heat exchanger with dual fans for $900 ($1250 if ordered separate), NGK colder spark plugs for $13ea, dual 68mm throttle body (good for about 15-20HP) for $600, and an SCT calibration for $250 (SCT cal can adjust for top speed limit and long tube headers in NON Emissions States Only) ($500 if ordered separate), 3.25" SC pulley and belt for $0 ($230 if ordered separate) if added on at the time of the kit order. We do not do custom calibrations for modified motors.
BRAPPPP,
Most of our conversation was via email and regarding a "previously purchased" kit you were looking to get from a dealer that was purchased from us in 2012. You also stated that you were looking to add LT headers as well. Like I stated to you in the email and above, I can not do a LT header cal for you as you are in CA because of emissions reasons so I did not offer you the SCT upgrade. Also, If you do want the SCT cal upgrade for the Ford Blue kit you were looking to purchase, it would not be the $250 price stated above as the kit was already sold a standard kit. It would be $500 (cal and tool). This is because the calibration price that we pay the engineers is already rolled into the price of the kit. If a calibration is purchased separate or after the fact, we need to charge for the calibration again.
If you order the kit with the SCT upgrade, the factory PCM does not have to be sent in to us for any reason. If you send the PCM to Whipple for the standard calibration and later decide you want to do a custom tune, the PCM will either have to come to us to be reset to stock or taken to the dealer to do so. As stated, the standard Whipple cal is encrypted and can not be saved or altered in any way.
I hope this clears up any confusion you guys had and feel free to email or call me if you have any further questions of concerns.
SilentShooter
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Awesome response.. Glad that the SCT tune is actually an option. I think next month I will be placing the order for one in ford racing blue.
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