Traction Issues

[LSURaptor]

People will surprise you. Theres a lot of dumb ones out there. Obama believes he has a better chance of reelection now than he originally had in 08'! That says it all right there.

Well with the current crop of GOP choices, he may not be far off in his belief.
Is it too early in the day to start drinking?

 

[LSURaptor]

There are no hubs, so everything is turning regardless. Just a matter of power being sent to the front or not. Just FYI...

Gotcha. My 4wd/awd experience is limited to an Audi and an H2 so both had center diffs and were always engaged.

Guess all I'm doing is exercising a solenoid...

Too bad car manuals don't go into details about the systems. Then again, no one would bother to read them.

 

[swoop1156]

Holy shit this thread is a ******* JOKE! Comparing a sophisticated ALL WHEEL DRIVE system that's MEANT to be ALL WHEEL DRIVE ALL THE ******* TIME to a TRUCK with a conventional 4x4 setup is STUPID!

The term four-wheel drive typically describes larger passenger vehicles that may allow the driver to manually switch between two-wheel drive mode for streets, and four-wheel drive mode for low-traction conditions such as ice, mud, snow, or loose gravel.

All-wheel drive (AWD) is often used to describe a "full time" 4WD that may be used on dry pavement without damaging the differentials. AWD can be used on dry pavement because it employs a center differential, which allows each axle to rotate at a different speed. This eliminates driveline binding, wheel hop, and other driveline issues associated with the use of 4WD on dry pavement.

Because all 4 tires in a full time AWD system are connected by a system of differentials, they are potentially very susceptible to torque reduction when a wheel loses traction. Without sophisticated traction control systems, they would become immobilized when any one of the four tires lost traction. A traditional part time 4WD system does not connect the front and rear via a differential, and therefore does not suffer any front/rear torque reduction—if a front tire loses traction, it does not reduce torque delivered to the rear tires, even without traction control systems.

Part-time 4WD systems are mechanically simpler and cheaper than AWD systems. Also, a part-time 4WD transfer case is usually equipped with a reduction gear setting that provides for higher torque at lower speeds, a vital feature for vehicles that will see much off-road use. In AWD systems a more expensive separate reduction gearbox is usually used. The main drawback of 4WD is that because it lacks a center differential, a part-time 4WD system can only be used in low traction situations where the wheels have the ability to slip as needed.

****, do we all understand now?

 

[LSURaptor]

HOLY ******* SHIT CALM DOWN!

If you don't have traction and want traction, put it in 4wd. Simple!

The only understanding I didn't have initially was whether this particular system had a center diff. It does not. Now I know. Manual doesn't say. Doesn't change my answer though...

 

[Humvee21]

No need to yell, professor. I only talked about the LP560-4's AWD system because of what whtrapta said about the symptoms these trucks had when in 4HI on pavement. So, even with the AWD system having a center diff I have still having similar symptoms that you guys would have if you ran your Raptor on 4WD.

Maybe this little fella will cheer you up...

 

[Tautog]

This is becoming entertaining to this early retiree

 

[pirate air]

Get em' swoop lol

 

[Raptorguy21]

I guess I should go get some popcorn, this is about to get good......



Swoop---->

 

[6.2]

Hahahaha I'm just sitting here laughing.

 

[Phil_A.]

I emailed with Torsen yesterday. It's a front locker, so wouldn't help my problem. But the good news is that it will retrofit directly to earlier models, and can be used on the street (if the road is snowy) without being a hazard to steering the way a front air-locker would be.