GEN 2 Torque Arm v. Traction Bars

[Riddick]

Gen 1 design is all done and ready to cut out the parts. Just need some test subjects

I would be waving my hand yelling “pick me!”, but you can’t get any flatter than the farm country I live in. Hell, the most articulation my suspension sees is crossing a drainage dip in the road.

Oh well, I’ll continue to watch for updates.

 

[jakeO]

Wow I like the looks of this.

 

[UrbanMenace]

Hello I"m new to this board. After looking at the impressive CAD drawings I'm asking myself how will this design be robust enough to eliminate axle wrap in a 600ft-lbs torque F150. Do you have any testing data to support the trailing singe square arm design?

And don't just think I'm questioning the KHC design. I'm also looking at Rouges design of floating Shelby trailing arms wondering how this is going to prevent axle wrap in all but the most extreme axle angles? SVC looks like a design that will work well on road under light rear axle travel but extreme loads on or off road it appears some binding might occur? I could be mistaken...

KHC i like some of your designs but on this... I'm completely unbiased and looking to be convinced what type of testing data has collected on this design?

 

[Turbogoat324]

not for nothing, I haven't dragged the traction bars lowest mounting point once.

outside of their shop raptor and/or the ken block truck, I probably have the most off road miles on mine.

I have had absolutely zero negative effects, save for wanting to do donuts on the street constantly.

KHC is in new jersey. SVC is in orange county. One thing that ive learned with modifying my truck: The folks that make the parts that are most familiar ( and frequent regularly) with the terrain that you drive are the ones you should defer to.

SVC has a pretty good track record racing 6100 class. I've been driven around Johnson valley (hammertown) in my truck, and a can am by SVC.

I've got the svc variant on my truck. I will not be taking them off.

I'd also refer to geometry and physics class to decipher what impact steeper angles and shorter arms have on the ability to control axle position and wrap.

I don't have anything against khc, Dave makes really nice stuff. but perhaps his design is best suited to what his customers are doing with their trucks, which is probably not heading into the desert. I know that SVC's customer base consists of a majority that are beating the hell out of their trucks in the desert, mercilessly, all over the southwest and mexico.

the large majority of the stuff that I havent broken on my truck are SVC parts. I have broken zero of their parts. I have broken lots of other vendors parts, and lots of Ford parts.

food for thought, I guess.

Agreed! I just took my truck out for the first time since I put the SVC trac bars on and I beat it up pretty good! Never had any issue with clearance even with some pretty big breakover hills. No regrets at all! SVC quality is amazing as well though I’ve also heard nothing but great reviews about KHC’s products!

 

[crjdriver]

I was starting to think since I experienced some wheel hop on the beach. Since I have an accessport and intercooler coming and will soon be putting out about 565HP at the crank. I am quite concerned with the axle wrap. I am a traction bar guy. This looks intriguing, but for the price, I would rather just go SVC. Anyone know if the SVC bars bolt up or weld up?

edited, Math was wrong.

 

[Asinine]

I was starting to think since I experienced some wheel hop on the beach. Since I have an accessport and intercooler coming and will soon be putting out about 675 HP at the crank. I am quite concerned with the axle wrap. I am a traction bar guy. This looks intriguing, but for the price, I would rather just go SVC. Anyone know if the SVC bars bolt up or weld up?

Weld up.

 

[EmbDriver]

Hey Dave, I am close to you if you need a mule let me know!

 

[nikhsub1]

I was starting to think since I experienced some wheel hop on the beach. Since I have an accessport and intercooler coming and will soon be putting out about 675 HP at the crank. I am quite concerned with the axle wrap. I am a traction bar guy. This looks intriguing, but for the price, I would rather just go SVC. Anyone know if the SVC bars bolt up or weld up?

LOL @ 675 HP at the crank.

 

[Truckasaurus]

LOL @ 675 HP at the crank.

That's more power than a Ford GT

 

[Oldfart]

LOL @ 675 HP at the crank.

He may have installed some really large Ford Performance decals. They can easily add as much as 200 hp without any other mods needed.