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Madcowranch

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Don't know if this is going to happen before I need to decide which shocks to go with.:frown:

There are guys out there who's opinions I respect who have chosen to go with one or the other. My question: Is there anyone impartial out there who has tried both and wants to give an opinion?

I really wanted to get this done before TRR!

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I'm down to either Fox or Icons.
 

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any one of them would be an up grade but I bet you could ride in one with both set up's at ttr
 

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Don't know if this is going to happen before I need to decide which shocks to go with.:frown:

There are guys out there who's opinions I respect who have chosen to go with one or the other. My question: Is there anyone impartial out there who has tried both and wants to give an opinion?

I really wanted to get this done before TRR!

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I'm down to either Fox or Icons.

What are you looking for from the on-road ride? I think both will perform admirably in the dirt but is your rig a daily driver? I think that is where the two differ the most. Neither is better in general but it's about what is better for you. I think you know where I stand.

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Don't know if this is going to happen before I need to decide which shocks to go with.:frown:

There are guys out there who's opinions I respect who have chosen to go with one or the other. My question: Is there anyone impartial out there who has tried both and wants to give an opinion?

I really wanted to get this done before TRR!

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I'm down to either Fox or Icons.

Either set is going to be a awesome improvement...I can only give you the reason I went with the Icon... This is because I can make my own adjustments with ease...
1. So, lets say I am towing my trailer full(7000) I can adjust the rears to stiff to help me... Since I am running the factory bump stops
2. Or, I am driving 2000 miles to get to a place to off road I can adjust the shocks to soft for the ride there and then make adjustments for the place I am running.
 

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Don't know if this is going to happen before I need to decide which shocks to go with.:frown:

There are guys out there who's opinions I respect who have chosen to go with one or the other. My question: Is there anyone impartial out there who has tried both and wants to give an opinion?

I really wanted to get this done before TRR!

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I'm down to either Fox or Icons.
The hardest part about asking that, is that there's virtually nobody with zero bias. Most people WANT to believe what they have is "the best" and that's the reason they bought the setup they have.

That being said, I've spent thousands of off road miles in my truck, other peoples trucks, and have experienced the 3 major brands that we're referring to, with one exception (I'll get to that in a minute).

Of the setups that I've tried, I feel the Icons have the best "all around" characteristics for what I personally need, and what I feel most owners would want. The fact they ride so well on-road, with the ability to make them perform incredibly offroad with just a few clicks, is what really makes me feel they're the best choice for most people. The ride is truly VERY close to stock when "S" is selected on the front shocks... which is damn impressive for a 3" piston (Keep in mind the Fox 3.0 shocks are actually using a 2.5" piston, so a smoother ride can be easier to achieve from the get go).

Secondly, I've had some front-end impacts that literally made me clinch up, expecting to be slammed into oblivion... only to find I didn't even bottom the skid plate out, which I used to ALL THE TIME with the stock shocks. In my experience with the two other brands, those "oh shit" moments still resulted in a front end impact with the dirt. The internal hydraulic bump zone on these front shocks is amazing... it REALLY works well, all B.S. and marketting hype aside.

Third, the customer service you will receive with the Icons is second to NOBODY. No other manufacturer will give you the attention, and respond to your issues like Icon has demonstrated to it's current customers over the past few months. How many companies can you actually call, and speak to the engineer who designed, tuned, and created these shocks? Pretty awesome, in my opinion. They're also constantly improving their product, and never settle for "good enough". Their 3.0's have already seen a variety of small improvements, even just since I installed them 4 months ago. On top of that, if you have any issues, they're on top of it in short order... great guys, personally and professionally.

My buddy Gordon Brown, who has as many off road miles as I do, just recently swapped out his King shock, for a set of Icons, after taking my truck for a spin, and getting to see and feel the differences in not only the shocks themselves, but how Icon conducts business. That says a lot, in my book.

The only setup I haven't tested, and can't feel confident saying is any better or worse, is the RPG-tuned Fox shocks. I'm sure the reason RPG has their own custom tuning, is because the stock setup just sucks... and I'm there's there's a significant improvement, but haven't had the chance to experience it. However, even if the off road setup is great, for the reasons I listed above, I would STILL prefer the Icons, because of the 3 main points I listed above.

Just my opinion... I really have nothing to gain by being biased, and although I work closely with Outlaw, keep in mind they also sell all 3 major brands, and have no reason to be heavily biased either.
 
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The hardest part about asking that, is that there's virtually nobody with zero bias. Most people WANT to believe what they have is "the best" and that's the reason they bought the setup they have.
Of course. Justifiably so. Who the hell wants to step up and say the $5grand they just dropped was a mistake? Very, very few people I know...

Which is why a test/experiment like what's proposed here would be so valuable. No winner would be crowned, but you could sure as heck count on an unbiased look at all options presented.

I'm still very willing to make this all happen guys. The hold up as of this moment is parts. An OEM set and ICONs are so far the only parts we have been promised for test. We still need a set of Fox and/or Kings. THEN we open it up and start collecting member contributed fundage.
 

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Of course. Justifiably so. Who the hell wants to step up and say the $5grand they just dropped was a mistake? Very, very few people I know...

Which is why a test/experiment like what's proposed here would be so valuable. No winner would be crowned, but you could sure as heck count on an unbiased look at all options presented.

I'm still very willing to make this all happen guys. The hold up as of this moment is parts. An OEM set and ICONs are so far the only parts we have been promised for test. We still need a set of Fox and/or Kings. THEN we open it up and start collecting member contributed fundage.

By fox do you mean the off the shelf fox's or RPG's tuned 3.0s?
 

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Of course. Justifiably so. Who the hell wants to step up and say the $5grand they just dropped was a mistake? Very, very few people I know...

Which is why a test/experiment like what's proposed here would be so valuable. No winner would be crowned, but you could sure as heck count on an unbiased look at all options presented.

I'm still very willing to make this all happen guys. The hold up as of this moment is parts. An OEM set and ICONs are so far the only parts we have been promised for test. We still need a set of Fox and/or Kings. THEN we open it up and start collecting member contributed fundage.
Yep... and so it's almost like a rhetorical question, however I would hope people do place more weight and validity on the opinions of those who "have" tested multiple setups and don't have any real reason for bias... But to have literally ZERO bias, is nearly impossible.
 

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I will admit that I am totally biased towards the RPG tuned Fox 3.0's. I wouldn't go as far as saying that the factory tuning in them "sucks". That's a pretty strong claim with no actual facts to back up but I guess that's for another discussion. Touching on the 2.5" piston in the fox shocks is quite irrelevant too considering they're running an internal bypass which is absolutely huuuuge for our trucks when we're running a single coilover upfront. The spring rate in the Fox shocks is a much better setup compared to the competition but I'd rather let an expert explain the differences.

I know there's so much of this is better than the other and it's to the point where it's getting down right annoying. Yes, I'm fully aware that I'm probably adding to all the mess. I'm just waiting for an Icon or King equipped Raptor to get some videos out of them really hammering through some rough terrain. Everything I've seen this far isn't very impressive. Just my honest opinion and I'm not trying to be offensive.

Regardless though madcow, I really think any of big three shock companies will be a big improvement over stock.

I'll leave the conversation with one thought. Come summertime, my truck will be getting linked and I will be keeping the front end pretty much intact with where it's at right now. I'll be adding a bypass and will most likely pull out the internal bypass in the Fox C/O. I'm confienent that the front setup can hang with 28" of rear wheel travel but I guess time will tell. For the record, Chris and I have elected to call off our deal on his rear setup.
 
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