Supercab Sound system
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+1^^^^ this was my findings. Thanks!
About adding an amp, I found that most are using a clean sweep, I have a digital alpine pdx amp and was wondering if that's the only way to go about adding a new amp/sub?
12' Race Red Raptor SCAB (Loaded to the max!)
SCABS are faster!!
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About adding an amp, I found that most are using a clean sweep, I have a digital alpine pdx amp and was wondering if that's the only way to go about adding a new amp/sub?
12' Race Red Raptor SCAB (Loaded to the max!)
SCABS are faster!!
08' SeaDoo RXP-X Clockin' 80+ GPS
you dont necessarily need a clean sweep to install a system in the truck. but it is the best way. the clean sweep with the summing device basically takes the signal that would go to your speakers and eliminates the factory preset eq then it sends the signal to your amp where you have your own crossover adjustments that you can make there or if you are using an audio control unit you can have more adjustments as well. a car manufacturers main concern when you have the oem system is that the product never fails, so you get less sound quality. that way when someone gets into the vehicle and cranks up the volume nothing blows up. they want the audio to last 20 years so the factory presets the eq so at max volume you dont damage you audio system. that factory preset eq ( if you havent noticed) is kind of dull sounding when compared to anything aftermaket.
but to answer your question you coud just us hi- to - low converters to convert speaker signsl to rca signal
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Ahhh, I gotcha! This is the route I'll go and see what I take of it! Doesn't seem hard one bit!
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let me know how it works out. or if you need any other help
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Just trying to decide on my best banging speaker if I was to go with the super crew sound box dual 10's or 12's. ..... Any input be great!?
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12s will always be better if you can fit them. the 12in woofer can produce a lot more lower bass ferquencies than a 10in. but yet doesnt have too big of a voice coil to give sloppy sound. the best bang for the buck is the pioneer shallow mount woofers they cost around $220 each but i think you can find them online for around 120. just be careful who you buy from. the pioneer will not be the loudest but 2 of those under you rear seats will definately mke your truck pound. if you want to spend the money JL audio mkes a shallow mount 13in woofer but those are about $600 retail each, and require more internal airspace. meaning bigger box. the pioneer shallow mount are the only pioneer woofers i recommend. if you are not worried about space go with a w7. but with the pioneers you can easily fit 2 12s and an amp under the seat
Since your an audio shop how will this set up sound?
Fox Acoustics box:
2004-11 FORD F-150 2-10" SUPER CAB & 2004-2008 SUPER CREW SUB BOX
2 JL 10w3
10W3v3-2 - Car Audio - Subwoofer Drivers - W3v3 - JL Audio
JL Slash 500
500/1v2 - Car Audio - Amplifiers - Slash v2 - JL Audio
Also where would I mount the amp in my Supercab. Whats the difference in 2 ohm and 4 ohm (which do i want). And wired in series or ??? (I've heard you can wire them differently). Sorry for all the newb question as I am new to audio.
Any input is appreciated, or if you recommend a different set up for the money or less.
the only problems i see with this setup is the box. i dont know what the box is made of. if the box is not sturdy and flexes the you will not have good sound reproduction. also running 10in woofers in a sealed enclosure will provide you with very accurate bass response, however due to the limitations of the voice coil will not get a deep bass response. i do not want to steer you away from what you want but i do want you to know what you will get if you go this route. what you need to figure out is what kind of bass do you want? thats why 12s are so popular they give the best response with the deep frequencies. the amp is fine i ran the 1000/1 for many years with my 13w7. the slash series amps do run hot though. well if you were at my shop i would probably quote you about $1500 for the JL amp 2 pioneer 12in shallow mount woofers and a custom fit box for under the rear seat with the amp built into the box and all cables and installation included. that would be close to retail prices so you do have room to negotiate with the potential shop who would install this for you. if you do want to run the 10w3s just make sure the box is rigid. meaning when i build boxes for customers i can stand on them and they do not flex at all because of the structural support i use inside the box. you can have the worlds best subwoofer in a crappy box and it will sound like garbage. on the other hand you can take the worlds cheapest woofer and put in a solid built box and it will sing to you. but when it comes down to it, its all a matter of your preference. what you want
i forgot to ask, do you have the sony system? if you have the amplified sony system then you do need a cleansweep and summing device
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i forgot to say something for you too. the difference between the 2 and 4 ohm is just wiring. there is no audio benefit with either one. lets say you have an amp that is 2 ohm stable. the rating on the amp would be something like this......1000 watts at 2 ohm 750 watts at 4 ohm. so to get max power from your amp you would want a final speaker impedence of 2 ohm that way you get 1000 watts. as far as the speaker goes if you have 2 single voice coil woofers at 4 ohms and you wired them parallel (positive to positive and negative to negative) you would get a final impedence of 2 ohms. lets say those same speakers were dual voice coil at 4 ohms. then you would have to wire each speaker parallel, at which point each woofers impedence is 2 ohms. that makes your final impedence at the amp 1 ohm. since the amp is not 1 ohm stable if you were to connect it the amp would shut down and/or overheat. so you would have to wire the speakers in series, but that makes the final impedence 4 ohms which your amp can handle but would only put out 750 watts. so you want to match the ohms and watts to the amp. sorry if its confusing, lets try this...
every time you wire in series the ohms double
every time you wire parallel the ohms get cut in half
ex. 1000 watt amp at 2 ohms..... you would need either 2 single 4 ohm woofers OR 2 dual voice coil woofers at 2 ohms
just keep in mind that you need to match up true RMS power from the amp and the woofer. sony for example rates their stuff at max power. so their amp might say 1100 watts max power, but if you look close it says rms power 500 watts so you would need to find a woofer that uses 500 watts rms. confusing i know just let me know if you still need help understanding it
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