Rigid 360 6” ? Or something else

[Troutrad]

That is actually the bracket designed by ADD to relocate the Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) sensor. For those that have ACC and are installing an aftermarket front bumper, you need to relocate the sensor up and behind the grille.

Spoke to Paul over at Swarfworks and he is still working on his front camera relocation kit (picture attached for reference). He does not have an ETA at this time partly due to the forced business closure in his state.

Oh...you’re right. Sorry, my bad again.

 

[Specialtyperformanceparts]

Oh...you’re right. Sorry, my bad again.

One of the reasons we developed out Mount the way we did was specifically because you DON'T need to relocate the adaptive CC sensor. While the aftermarket bumpers are popular, there is a reason Ford installed the sensor lower in the bumper. FUNCTIONALITY. When you relocate it way high in the grille as is required, you take it up off the ground where the sensor is intended to get feedback from vehicles. Coming up on low profile cars like say a Corvette, it may or may not read as well as it would in its current lower location. I can't say I have heard of any accidents specifically from that, but common sense tells you that Ford would optimize the sensor based on it's factory location and height. So that is just something to keep in mind with bumpers or mods that block, cover or modify those 2 Plastic panels in the bumper. Function and added safety are definitely something to be careful with. The second reason is ZERO modification. Unlike that Baja mount or the Nfab Mount, you don't need to drill into your bumper, plastic or relocate anything. It is designed to simply bolt into existing bolts. So if you ever wanted to take it off and keep it to resell your truck, you wouldn't have holes in those plastic panels or need to buy new ones.

Below is an install video showing how easy it is to install the mounts without cutting drilling or relocating anything.

John

 

[Troutrad]

One of the reasons we developed out Mount the way we did was specifically because you DON'T need to relocate the adaptive CC sensor. While the aftermarket bumpers are popular, there is a reason Ford installed the sensor lower in the bumper. FUNCTIONALITY. When you relocate it way high in the grille as is required, you take it up off the ground where the sensor is intended to get feedback from vehicles. Coming up on low profile cars like say a Corvette, it may or may not read as well as it would in its current lower location. I can't say I have heard of any accidents specifically from that, but common sense tells you that Ford would optimize the sensor based on it's factory location and height. So that is just something to keep in mind with bumpers or mods that block, cover or modify those 2 Plastic panels in the bumper. Function and added safety are definitely something to be careful with. The second reason is ZERO modification. Unlike that Baja mount or the Nfab Mount, you don't need to drill into your bumper, plastic or relocate anything. It is designed to simply bolt into existing bolts. So if you ever wanted to take it off and keep it to resell your truck, you wouldn't have holes in those plastic panels or need to buy new ones.

Below is an install video showing how easy it is to install the mounts without cutting drilling or relocating anything.

John

My only gripe with it, just like any I’ve seen, is it lifts the light bar off the top of the bumper enough to always cause greater encroachment on the front camera field of view. Pretty important for rock crawling (or parking this big beast). Some of the light bars are low profile enough to hardly get in the way of the camera if right on top of the bumper; the RDS-SR comes to mind. I realize there has to be space for the mounting hardware which is why they all have this gap. For me, since it’ll be a permanent solution, I plan on mounting directly to the bumper top which I realize will require drill holes in the bumper. It’s a trade off and your clients just need to know they’re trading some front camera view for a no-drill (and otherwise well designed) mount. Until you can relocate the camera up, I think that’s the choice we’re going to have.

BTW, got your new 4” 360 light kit for the front side bumper gaps and am excited to get those puppies in place! Will post some pics when I get around to doing it!

 

[Specialtyperformanceparts]

My only gripe with it, just like any I’ve seen, is it lifts the light bar off the top of the bumper enough to always cause greater encroachment on the front camera field of view. Pretty important for rock crawling (or parking this big beast). Some of the light bars are low profile enough to hardly get in the way of the camera if right on top of the bumper; the RDS-SR comes to mind. I realize there has to be space for the mounting hardware which is why they all have this gap. For me, since it’ll be a permanent solution, I plan on mounting directly to the bumper top which I realize will require drill holes in the bumper. It’s a trade off and your clients just need to know they’re trading some front camera view for a no-drill (and otherwise well designed) mount. Until you can relocate the camera up, I think that’s the choice we’re going to have.

BTW, got your new 4” 360 light kit for the front side bumper gaps and am excited to get those puppies in place! Will post some pics when I get around to doing it!

Yeah, you make a great point. Like everything, there is a trade off. We just try to not make things that require cutting or drilling. One thing I haven't tried, but I would need to check room is mounting the bar upside down on the brackets. It may be a close fit. We may look at a camera relocation kit, but have just been busy with other developemnts. Of course if you rock crawl, the camera is more important to you than many others out there.

If you get a chance, post pics up of your install on the 360 Series lights! I think since they are new, many people would love to see more pics. Also, let me know if you need anything or any help. Did you see the Fog install video?

 

[Troutrad]

Yeah, you make a great point. Like everything, there is a trade off. We just try to not make things that require cutting or drilling. One thing I haven't tried, but I would need to check room is mounting the bar upside down on the brackets. It may be a close fit. We may look at a camera relocation kit, but have just been busy with other developemnts. Of course if you rock crawl, the camera is more important to you than many others out there.

If you get a chance, post pics up of your install on the 360 Series lights! I think since they are new, many people would love to see more pics. Also, let me know if you need anything or any help. Did you see the Fog install video?

I sure will. May be a few days before I get to it. Loved the install video I saw. That’s a great looking set-up and I love the way it fills the “gap” better than the 3”squares. Only question was how to adjust the light projection direction once mounted but I assume that will become obvious when the time comes.

Hadn’t thought of a mount with the bracket above and the light hanging below so it sits as low as possible above the top of the front bumper. Would need some adjustability so it could handle the BD Onx6+ arced, the RDS and the RDS-SR...am I missing any radiused bars? Could market it as a front camera friendly option. THAT would sell...I’d buy it (if I hadn’t mounted a bar directly into the bumper yet...)

 

[Specialtyperformanceparts]

I sure will. May be a few days before I get to it. Loved the install video I saw. That’s a great looking set-up and I love the way it fills the “gap” better than the 3”squares. Only question was how to adjust the light projection direction once mounted but I assume that will become obvious when the time comes.

Hadn’t thought of a mount with the bracket above and the light hanging below so it sits as low as possible above the top of the front bumper. Would need some adjustability so it could handle the BD Onx6+ arced, the RDS and the RDS-SR...am I missing any radiused bars? Could market it as a front camera friendly option. THAT would sell...I’d buy it (if I hadn’t mounted a bar directly into the bumper yet...)

Cool, yeah, you will like them and they are easy to adjust and
Position.
On the BD onyx. Yes, actually, it may be easier to install anyway with the way it has its mount. You should have enough clearance to clear the bumper if you mount it upside down.

 

[Nick@Apollo-Optics]

One of the reasons we developed out Mount the way we did was specifically because you DON'T need to relocate the adaptive CC sensor. While the aftermarket bumpers are popular, there is a reason Ford installed the sensor lower in the bumper. FUNCTIONALITY. When you relocate it way high in the grille as is required, you take it up off the ground where the sensor is intended to get feedback from vehicles. Coming up on low profile cars like say a Corvette, it may or may not read as well as it would in its current lower location. I can't say I have heard of any accidents specifically from that, but common sense tells you that Ford would optimize the sensor based on it's factory location and height. So that is just something to keep in mind with bumpers or mods that block, cover or modify those 2 Plastic panels in the bumper. Function and added safety are definitely something to be careful with.

Bit of a stretch on that one. We've had zero issues with relocation kits and we've been selling them and running them for years. Hell, just this morning my lifted F-250 with re-located ACC and ADD bumper picked up a lower Honda Civic that decided to make a sudden U-turn from the left-turn lane.

You've got a nice product and it definitely checks the boxes for folks who are looking for that. But I wouldn't discount relocated ACC brackets. Especially when ADD worked directly with Ford on pre-production Raptors back in 2016 to develop their relocation brackets.

 

[TigerRaptor]

Here is my setup with (4) Rigid 360- 6 spots on an Icon Impact Bumper. I also relocated the camera. Lights are very bright and the camera works perfectly.

Radar cruise was relocated and works just like stock.

 

[Wrong Way]

In my opinion, 6" lights are just too big for hood mounts. They block a lot of visibility and they look goofy.

I'd mount either the 4" version up there, or go with another option like the Rigid D-SS lights.

We can also do other lights up there like the Baja Designs LP4 or Baja Designs XL80.

We carry them all here at Apollo Optics and can set you up with lights, mounts, and wiring. And we'll match or beat any Amazon price you find out there as well. Let me know if we can help.

Are these the 4” or 6” on the hood mounts?

 

[Nick@Apollo-Optics]

Are these the 4” or 6” on the hood mounts?

Those are the 6" Lights on the hood and 6 of the 4" lights in the bumper openings.