Dan06
FRF Addict
If possible I'd like an estimate for a custom product. I have a 2012 Ford Raptor. I would like a tire gate similar to SDHQ Offroad's J Runner J Runner Tire Gate . However, I would like it fitted to carry two 37" tires. By appearance this would be possible by simply the removal of the floor plates that hold gas, water, etc. Some minor additional things Ive had in mind included a cable with a lock or something to aid in theft prevention for the two 37" tires. And maybe a way to prevent theft of the tire gate like unique bolts (torques bolts, etc.) or welding it.
SDHQ said when I asked them the question:
"While having two spares in the bed and maintaining bed space is a good idea, I do not think it's possible due to weight and leverage issues. The weight of two 37" tires plus the tire gate itself would be too much for the mounting hardware to handle. Another thing to factor in is that the bouncing from off road driving or even day to day driving would put additional strain on the bolts and in my opinion it would not hold up and would lead to potential harm to yourself or others."
I've done some research. A gallon of water weighs appropriately 10 lbs, therefore a 5 gallon container bolted to the production J Runner tire gate weighs 50 lbs. A gallon of gasoline weighs about 6 lbs, therefore a 5 gallon container bolted to the production J Runner tire gate weighs 30 lbs. This combined weight equals around 80 lbs. The tire/wheel weight of a 37" tire equals about 80-90 lbs based on what i can find. Therefore, I don't see the difference between liquids (gasoline/water) and another tire. But, perhaps my math was wrong, or perhaps the original tire gate is a bad design.
I talked to Outlaw Raptor and they had negative things to say about tire gates all together. However, said you would brainstorm the idea for a similar solution. They were discussing tying it into the bumper or frame somehow. Also, I was enlightened to the fact that Tiregate.com makes virtually all the tire gates and they don't hold up well on the Raptor Expeditions.
I would like a tire gate or bumper of some sort that leaves the majority of the bed for storage other than tires. I use a shop that is capable of modification to the bed if necessary. I'm just more comfortable with a shop who specializes in Raptor products to develop the item itself. It needs to be stout, I don't want a deformed bed. Thanks for your time and look forward to responses.
SDHQ said when I asked them the question:
"While having two spares in the bed and maintaining bed space is a good idea, I do not think it's possible due to weight and leverage issues. The weight of two 37" tires plus the tire gate itself would be too much for the mounting hardware to handle. Another thing to factor in is that the bouncing from off road driving or even day to day driving would put additional strain on the bolts and in my opinion it would not hold up and would lead to potential harm to yourself or others."
I've done some research. A gallon of water weighs appropriately 10 lbs, therefore a 5 gallon container bolted to the production J Runner tire gate weighs 50 lbs. A gallon of gasoline weighs about 6 lbs, therefore a 5 gallon container bolted to the production J Runner tire gate weighs 30 lbs. This combined weight equals around 80 lbs. The tire/wheel weight of a 37" tire equals about 80-90 lbs based on what i can find. Therefore, I don't see the difference between liquids (gasoline/water) and another tire. But, perhaps my math was wrong, or perhaps the original tire gate is a bad design.
I talked to Outlaw Raptor and they had negative things to say about tire gates all together. However, said you would brainstorm the idea for a similar solution. They were discussing tying it into the bumper or frame somehow. Also, I was enlightened to the fact that Tiregate.com makes virtually all the tire gates and they don't hold up well on the Raptor Expeditions.
I would like a tire gate or bumper of some sort that leaves the majority of the bed for storage other than tires. I use a shop that is capable of modification to the bed if necessary. I'm just more comfortable with a shop who specializes in Raptor products to develop the item itself. It needs to be stout, I don't want a deformed bed. Thanks for your time and look forward to responses.
