Performance Tune with Warranty

[Fshnrig]

$185.00 an hour? Is this there going labor rate or accessory labor price? Is this just for the air intake and tune or the pack 3 with exhaust? I heard Roush was ok with the owner self installing the intake and just making sure the dealer loads the tune to qualify for the warranty.

their standard labor rate apparently. I asked if I could bring the truck to them and just have them do the tune and he couldnt answer if that would void the warranty or not.

 

[K223]

I’d contact Roush and confirm this for yourself.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

This is a common misconception. In the event of a catastrophic failure (rod through the block, cracked piston, etc.) the manufacturer does not need to prove that the tune was the root cause. Manufacturers spend millions of dollars developing factory calibrations to keep the engine alive under every condition imaginable...once the end user changes that calibration, all bets are off. They have no idea whats been changed, and it's not their obligation to find out. This is no different than when you buy an electronic device and break the anti-tamper seal; you no longer have a warranty on said product.

In regards to dealers, it's often not their decision. When an engine fails in a manner consistent with modifications or abuse, a field rep is often dispatched. Said field rep will perform a full inspection of the vehicle (right down to witness marks on bolts) and connect their scan tool to pull all data. If they find that the engine has been tuned, not only is the engine warranty void, but so is the rest of the powertrain (transmission/rear axle). The manufacturer can only warranty what they engineer and build; once you go rogue, the collateral damage is on you.

So would Ford blame an aftermarket exhaust and void your warranty if you were to have some type of power train issue?

Moreover, if you didn’t put a tune on the truck, but did switch out the turbo adapters, do you think Ford would catch it? As long as you didn’t strip the bolts heads (or something similar) when switching them out I am not sure one could tell. https://www.spdperformance.com/high-flow-turbo-exhaust-adapter

I am wanting to run the SPD turbo adapters, SPD down pipes and a Corsa Xtreme exhaust. The sound is wicked being able to hear those turbos whistle—sounds like a Diesel.

 

[FordTechOne]

Thank you for the response. But how can Roush offer a warranty and the other tuners not? Just because Roush is a much much larger company I take it and have carb certification to sell it nationwide?

Glad to provide any help I can. I'm not so much sure that it's that Roush "can" offer a warranty as much as it is that they choose to based on their sales demographic. There are Roush "authorized" dealers that literally sell Roush modified vehicles right off the showroom floor, and for a massive premium. If the dealer can't offer the customer at least some piece of mind via a Roush 3/36 warranty, they'd probably find a lot less buyers. Especially when spending that kind of money.

Based on The Roush tune specs, it does look to come in lower than other brands. But can I guess they don’t want to push it and have possible failures they have to cover? Or there tune has to meet emissions? Then again I am sure they want to make the power they say there tune will do if someone dynos there truck and it doesn’t meet that. Roush has more at stake then smaller outfits I’m sure.

Not sure, but both theories are possible. I'm would think that they aren't looking to blow out their warranty budget on powertrain failures. As far as emissions, I know some of their modifications are compliant but I can't comment on the specifics as I am not familiar with the intricacies of Roush modifications. I am only familiar with the warranty aspect, which unfortunately gets misinterpreted often by not only consumers but dealers as well.

 

[Fshnrig]

I’d contact Roush and confirm this for yourself.

Already have an email into them.

 

[K223]

Already have an email into them.

Let us know what you find out plz. I was also considering this down the road based on the warranty it offers.

 

[K223]

So would Ford blame an aftermarket exhaust and void your warranty if you were to have some type of power train issue?

Moreover, if you didn’t put a tune on the truck, but did switch out the turbo adapters, do you think Ford would catch it? As long as you didn’t strip the bolts heads (or something similar) when switching them out I am not sure one could tell. https://www.spdperformance.com/high-flow-turbo-exhaust-adapter

I am wanting to run the SPD turbo adapters, SPD down pipes and a Corsa Xtreme exhaust. The sound is wicked being able to hear those turbos whistle—sounds like a Diesel.

Now that is wicked. It almost sounds like sports car meets Diesel truck and then some. You can hear the turbo at the end of the exhaust note. Not sure how it sounds in the cab or if I could live with this exhaust sound, but it’s certainly much more than stock offers.

While people complain they don’t like the V6 sound, nobody has ever complained about the whistle of a turbo or a spooled up supercharger no matter what the application is.

 

[FordTechOne]

So would Ford blame an aftermarket exhaust and void your warranty if you were to have some type of power train issue?

Moreover, if you didn’t put a tune on the truck, but did switch out the turbo adapters, do you think Ford would catch it? As long as you didn’t strip the bolts heads (or something similar) when switching them out I am not sure one could tell. https://www.spdperformance.com/high-flow-turbo-exhaust-adapter

I am wanting to run the SPD turbo adapters, SPD down pipes and a Corsa Xtreme exhaust. The sound is wicked being able to hear those turbos whistle—sounds like a Diesel.

I've never personally seen a powertrain warranty voided due to a catback exhaust.

As far as turbo adapters, I haven't actually heard of such a thing so thank you for providing a link with info. From my experience, something like that isn't likely to change the turbocharger spool characteristics enough to cause an engine failure.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

Now that is wicked. It almost sounds like sports car meets Diesel truck and then some. You can hear the turbo at the end of the exhaust note. Not sure how it sounds in the cab or if I could live with this exhaust sound, but it’s certainly much more than stock offers.

While people complain they don’t like the V6 sound, nobody has ever complained about the whistle of a turbo or a spooled up supercharger no matter what the application is.

From what I have been told, it is loud when you get on it and quite when cruising around. Corsa’s Xtreme set up on the Gen 1 was the same way. Hands down, that is the best sounding exhaust I have heard for the Gen 2.

I just can’t get over that whistle...

 

[John Rathjen]

Thank you for the response. But how can Roush offer a warranty and the other tuners not? Just because Roush is a much much larger company I take it and have carb certification to sell it nationwide?



Hey bud, as mentioned in my OP, the Rousch tune does NOT have CARB certification, and I was told thru email that they are not even pursuing it.

As for installation costs, Akins Ford sells the stage 1 kit installed for $1089

The Rousch kit it a little more pricey than others, with slightly lower power, but having that extra warranty is a big feature to me.