OP would know probably know better than me. A few years ago I believe you could get a GT car at MSRP if you waited. I don't believe that is the case anymore with the exception of guys who are buying multiple new Porsches each year from a single dealership. I don't have that relationship with any one dealer so I paid a hefty ADM for mine. That being said after ADM, taxes and full PPF the car is worth considerably more than what I have into it. I think pay to play is going to be the case until (if) Porsche decides to do something about it.Beautiful car. Pardon me for hijacking the thread. I know nothing about Porsches so I'll ask the rookie question - are these specialty models like the GT3 available without markups if one is willing to wait (2-3 years or whatever it takes).