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You make the 4th Dealership that has said, "we get more Raptors than any others in the U.S."
Here's my experience, FWIW: Every Dealer in every state I called told me their Raptors were 50 state legal - and, again, these were some of the greatest and highest volume Raptor dealers in the world (supposedly).
Fortunate for us all - you just happen to have the proper Raptors for Calif buyers though you don't mention prices or discounts!
I had a wonderful experience with my "out-of-state" dealership, no hype, no unfounded scare tactics, just honest business. They laughed when I asked if my Raptor for sale was 50 state Smog Legal.
My CADMV process was painless and straight forward, would do it again tomorrow if I needed to.

Again, just my experience.

To put in context, We SOLD about 80 of 2018 Raptors. Most dealers get 2-3 per year at best. Our dealer Allocation is 6-8 per month.

Here are the 2019 Stickers. Notice the California Emissions on them... ALWAYS require to see the sticker. If it isn't listed as "50 State Emissions" or "California Emissions" you won't be able to register it.

The sale price would be MSRP on 2019's. They just started hitting the ground 4 days ago.

I can also custom order one for you at MSRP however you like.

John

317-796-8472

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I know (at least that is what they told me) the small Ford dealer in Moab, UT gets one a year.

My 19 sticker says California emissions on it and it is not being delivered to California. Check the sticker.
 

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Most dealers getting 2 or 3 at best is a farce. Not even remotely true

Most dealers are not that large. I understand maybe a lot of them that you may talk to, may be large. The Raptor Allocation is based on sales volume. So a dealership that stocks around say 800 new vehicles like the dealer I am at, would be considered on the larger medium side. The Majority of dealers out there may only stock 200-250 new vehicles as a medium dealer. Several Small dealers may only stock 40-50 total new cars. Then there are the MEGA sized dealers like Galpin for example. Galpin has 2500 new vehicles (And they charge $15,000 over sticker for Raptors BTW. We sell to a lot of their customers) and Brandon Ford in Tampa that has 2100 new Fords. They are the exception to the rule. It isn't just about the amount of units stocked though, but that certainly helps. My dealer is on the UPPER MIDDLE of the volume of US Ford dealers. You know how they say "the upper class makes up only 2%" Same here. The MEGA Dealers make up about 2% of all the 3,550 Ford dealers around the country. Well, if every dealer got 1, that would be 3,500 Raptors. If every dealer got 6 for the entire year, that would be 21,000 Raptors built for the year.... Well, they used to build about 15,000, and now they build about 25,000 per year, and I can tell you if every dealer were to get 80, like the dealer I reside, (80x3500) then Ford would be building 280,000 Raptors a year. The math is the Math. A select few of the LARGER dealer get the majority of the Allotment, with the smaller volume dealers getting very few. The thing is, Ford is REQUIRED to provide EVERY dealer at LEAST 1 per year or they can be sued for being "Partial" or discriminating. That actually happened when they had SVT dealer franchises. A few small dealers sued them because they wouldn't let them buy SVT Cobras and Lightnings. Then they allowed EVERY dealer to be an SVT dealer. then changed it to "Ford Performance".
So if we do the math. If all 3,500 dealers got 1, and there were 21,500 left... then the rest of them were given 80... that only leaves 268 that could get 80. They are spread a little more than that. So most dealers get 2-3... (3,500 dealer x 3 per dealer is 10,500) then that leaved approx. 14,500 to split between the other dealers. Lets say 1000 of the 3500 dealers get another 5 for a total of 8... That's 8,000 more of the 25,000 total.... so that leaves 6500 to distribute. Lets say 500 of the dealers get another 10. That takes another 5,000 of the 6,500. That leaves only 1,500 to distribute. If you take that and divide it by 60 units each... that leaves 25 dealers across the country out of 3,500 that would get 3+8+10+60 for a total of 81.

So in the large picture, MOST dealers only get 2-3 per year. The thing is, most people don't realize how many SMALL town dealers there are out there. The one thing that got our dealer so much allocation above and beyond being based on general volume is that in 2014, they bought up all the small dealers Raptor Allocation across the US and sold them and earned more units that way by selling more. It's all based on turn and earn.

If you'd like to see what a small dealer looks like, click this link. It will surge their traffic... they have 21 new Fords in stock...
https://www.matlockford.com/new-inventory/index.htm

Here is another one (these are 30 minutes apart from each other) they have 28 new Fords in stock
http://www.communityford.info/new-inventory/

The Big cities have the BIG dealers. But the majority of the dealers are spread all across the US.

Anyway, I don't care if anyone wants one or not. If they do, they can buy one at MSRP, without $9 million dollar "Prep" charges like the big city dealers charge. Just trying to help.
 

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I know (at least that is what they told me) the small Ford dealer in Moab, UT gets one a year.

My 19 sticker says California emissions on it and it is not being delivered to California. Check the sticker.

Correct. It has to be specifically ordered by your dealer that way. Some may, you just want to ask. The smaller unfamiliar dealers may sell one without even realizing. The problem is, you, the customer.. is t one that gets stuck with the hassle. I mean ultimately you get an attorney and the dealer has to take it back, but it's easier to save the hassle up front.
 

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You make the 4th Dealership that has said, "we get more Raptors than any others in the U.S."
Here's my experience, FWIW: Every Dealer in every state I called told me their Raptors were 50 state legal - and, again, these were some of the greatest and highest volume Raptor dealers in the world (supposedly).
Fortunate for us all - you just happen to have the proper Raptors for Calif buyers though you don't mention prices or discounts!
I had a wonderful experience with my "out-of-state" dealership, no hype, no unfounded scare tactics, just honest business. They laughed when I asked if my Raptor for sale was 50 state Smog Legal.
My CADMV process was painless and straight forward, would do it again tomorrow if I needed to.

Again, just my experience.
You mis quoted what he posted . "We get more Raptors than most any dealer in the US" . The word "most" makes a big difference.
 

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Fascinating read. I bought mine from out of state, here’s what I learned and observed.

All Raptors are CA / 50 state compliant. I didn’t see one “brown” version.
Getting plates in CA required 4 things - weight cert, smog cert, DMV inspection, and DMV fees.
Didn’t have to sign anything to guarantee that I wasn’t reselling my Raptor.
Some CA dealers buy Raptors from out of state dealers and resell with ADM over MSRP. The local one in SJ moves 6-10 per month this way.
Dealers in the Midwest sell a lot of trucks and therefore get allocations of Raptors, which aren’t desirable because their customers want F250s or greater. Selling out of state is how they move most of them.

I found mine on eBay, made an offer under MSRP, paid the bill, and had it shipped all in a few days. Registering consumed 5-7 hours when adding up time for smog, weight, DMV lines, etc, but I saved ~$10K vs. buying locally, so it was well worth the effort.

I’ll throw out a plug for Nick @ Mangold Ford in Eureka, IL - super nice guy and made the transaction very easy.
 

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Fascinating read. I bought mine from out of state, here’s what I learned and observed.

All Raptors are CA / 50 state compliant. I didn’t see one “brown” version.
Getting plates in CA required 4 things - weight cert, smog cert, DMV inspection, and DMV fees.
Didn’t have to sign anything to guarantee that I wasn’t reselling my Raptor.
Some CA dealers buy Raptors from out of state dealers and resell with ADM over MSRP. The local one in SJ moves 6-10 per month this way.
Dealers in the Midwest sell a lot of trucks and therefore get allocations of Raptors, which aren’t desirable because their customers want F250s or greater. Selling out of state is how they move most of them.

I found mine on eBay, made an offer under MSRP, paid the bill, and had it shipped all in a few days. Registering consumed 5-7 hours when adding up time for smog, weight, DMV lines, etc, but I saved ~$10K vs. buying locally, so it was well worth the effort.

I’ll throw out a plug for Nick @ Mangold Ford in Eureka, IL - super nice guy and made the transaction very easy.


I’m good friends with Rob Gregoire, the GM at Mangold.
Smaller dealer, but Rob and his dealer are very ethical and care.
We talk all the time. Good folks.
 

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Here are the 2019 Stickers. Notice the California Emissions on them... ALWAYS require to see the sticker. If it isn't listed as "50 State Emissions" or "California Emissions" you won't be able to register it.

This couldn't be more wrong. Every Raptor is 50 state legal. The CA emissions paperwork is BS and not required.
 
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