Official Gen 3 COBB Tuning Thread - Accessport, Intake Bracket, etc

[nate_13]

Are you just running the OTS Cobb stage 2 map now? Will you be getting Goosetuned to sharpen the tune for you?

Yessir im gonna meet up with him and have him dyno tune for me! I just wanted to have some fun around town in the meantime.

 

[nate_13]

Great to hear the positive feedback!

Unlike the Gen2 Raptor that had separate control modules for the engine and transmission, the Gen3 Raptor uses a single module to control both. When selecting a map to install with the Accessport, you are choosing both the engine calibration and transmission calibration. All of our Stage1 87/91/93 OCT, Stage2 87/91/93 OCT, and Performance Tow 91/93 OCT calibrations are each available with the Simulated Stock, COBB OEM+, and COBB Sport transmission calibration versions. Altogether with the Anti-Theft and Stage0 tunes, it's a total of 26 tunes that you can choose from on the Accessport. Here is a general overview of the transmission calibration versions:

Simulated Stock: A completely stock transmission tune, outside of raised torque limits.

COBB OEM+: Increased upshift schedules, more sensitive downshift schedules, mildly firmer shifts, removal of upshift backout inhibit in Sport drive mode, and increased torque limits. Essentially a trans. cal that won't bog down the engine as much as stock, is more responsive than stock, but overall feels pretty close to stock.

COBB Sport: Increased upshift schedules (more than OEM+), more sensitive downshift schedules (more than OEM+), firmer shifts, removal of upshift backout inhibit in Sport drive mode, modified torque converter unlock/slip/lock schedules, and increased torque limits. This is the trans. cal that I always choose when driving our development Gen3 Raptor. The shift schedule changes are still subtle enough that the truck doesn't feel frenetic or wasteful, but combined with the modified torque converter behavior makes the truck feel way more responsive.

Another fun fact - for the few dozen ECUs we've processed so far, we are at a 100% fulfillment rate on same-day turnaround for ECUs! So long as UPS does their job, vehicle downtime should be just around 48hrs. Note that we are not open on weekends, so shipments that arrive on a Saturday or Sunday won't be processed until Monday. Similarly, ECUs that arrive on a Friday will still be returned same-day, but UPS may not make a Saturday delivery.

Thanks for the clarification! tune is amazing truck feels so much better and also my truck downtime was less than 48 hrs! Great customer service thank you.

 

[Raptor R]

i just loaded cobbs stage 2 tune, man shes a beast! spun the 37’s all the way throughout 1/2nd gear, i may be crazy but the idle sounded much better too, i do have a question maybe goose can answer, whats the difference between all the tunes
Some say sport +tcm and some say stock duplicate or something to that effect, and i was curious what the difference was? im gonna dyno tune her with goose, but i just wanted to play around since i cant make it out there until the new year.

Are you just running the OTS Cobb stage 2 map now? Will you be getting Goosetuned to sharpen the tune for you?

Yessir im gonna meet up with him and have him dyno tune for me! I just wanted to have some fun around town in the meantime.

Lucky, are you guys in California?

 

[AustinRaptor512]

Great to hear the positive feedback!

Unlike the Gen2 Raptor that had separate control modules for the engine and transmission, the Gen3 Raptor uses a single module to control both. When selecting a map to install with the Accessport, you are choosing both the engine calibration and transmission calibration. All of our Stage1 87/91/93 OCT, Stage2 87/91/93 OCT, and Performance Tow 91/93 OCT calibrations are each available with the Simulated Stock, COBB OEM+, and COBB Sport transmission calibration versions. Altogether with the Anti-Theft and Stage0 tunes, it's a total of 26 tunes that you can choose from on the Accessport. Here is a general overview of the transmission calibration versions:

Simulated Stock: A completely stock transmission tune, outside of raised torque limits.

COBB OEM+: Increased upshift schedules, more sensitive downshift schedules, mildly firmer shifts, removal of upshift backout inhibit in Sport drive mode, and increased torque limits. Essentially a trans. cal that won't bog down the engine as much as stock, is more responsive than stock, but overall feels pretty close to stock.

COBB Sport: Increased upshift schedules (more than OEM+), more sensitive downshift schedules (more than OEM+), firmer shifts, removal of upshift backout inhibit in Sport drive mode, modified torque converter unlock/slip/lock schedules, and increased torque limits. This is the trans. cal that I always choose when driving our development Gen3 Raptor. The shift schedule changes are still subtle enough that the truck doesn't feel frenetic or wasteful, but combined with the modified torque converter behavior makes the truck feel way more responsive.

Another fun fact - for the few dozen ECUs we've processed so far, we are at a 100% fulfillment rate on same-day turnaround for ECUs! So long as UPS does their job, vehicle downtime should be just around 48hrs. Note that we are not open on weekends, so shipments that arrive on a Saturday or Sunday won't be processed until Monday. Similarly, ECUs that arrive on a Friday will still be returned same-day, but UPS may not make a Saturday delivery.

I’m assuming the stage 0 acts like factory? When installing my accessport didn’t give me an option to back up the factory specs.

 

[nate_13]

Are you just running the OTS Cobb stage 2 map now? Will you be getting Goosetuned to sharpen the tune for you?

Lucky, are you guys in California?

Im in west texas and hes in NM, like 3 hrs from me

 

[COBB Tuning]

I’m assuming the stage 0 acts like factory? When installing my accessport didn’t give me an option to back up the factory specs.

Yup, the Stage0 map has no changes from the factory tune, but still leaves the Accessport installed. If/when you take the truck in for service, make sure to fully uninstall the AP by selecting the 'Uninstall' option from the main menu.

Part of the process for the bench unlock is to backup the factory ROM from the ECU, so we've removed the option to backup using the AP at the time of install due to redundancy. Uninstalling the AP from the truck will put the factory ROM back on the ECU, but does not remove the unlock that we have done on the bench of COBB HQ. So you can uninstall, go to the dealer, and then reinstall the AP without having to send the ECU in again.

 

[Raptor R]

Yup, the Stage0 map has no changes from the factory tune, but still leaves the Accessport installed. If/when you take the truck in for service, make sure to fully uninstall the AP by selecting the 'Uninstall' option from the main menu.

Part of the process for the bench unlock is to backup the factory ROM from the ECU, so we've removed the option to backup using the AP at the time of install due to redundancy. Uninstalling the AP from the truck will put the factory ROM back on the ECU, but does not remove the unlock that we have done on the bench of COBB HQ. So you can uninstall, go to the dealer, and then reinstall the AP without having to send the ECU in again.

Can the dealership tell if the ecu has ever had a an AP installed?

 

[COBB Tuning]

Can the dealership tell if the ecu has ever had a an AP installed?

Same as Gen2 - to our knowledge, no, the dealer wouldn't be able to tell the difference between an AP being uninstalled from the truck vs. resetting the ECU with a generic scan tool or disconnecting the battery. That said, to CYA/be as forthright as possible, we don't know what Ford won't tell us, so we can't answer your question with a hard 'No'.

The question about warranty when tuning is a dead horse so I won't do a whole spiel about it, but it is important to understand that there is some risk when tuning. Will the dealership deny warranty replacement window regulators when tuned? Definitely not. Will the dealership deny warranty replacement of cam phasers on tuned trucks? Overwhelmingly from the Gen2 folks, it appears no. Will the dealership deny warranty on a snapped axle when the truck has a big turbos and the exhaust smells like ethanol? Probably. If in doubt, give a few of your local Ford dealerships a call and chat with the service advisors - you might be surprised how many of them are running around with tuned cars and trucks, many even with Cobb products!

 

[nate_13]

Question, if im using the tow tune do i need to set truck to tow mode? or just run the tow tune and truck in normal mode

 

[FREEZE451]

This being my first Ford, I'm new to tunning trucks.

That being said, have tuned plenty of cars, but never have sent an ECU.

By the look of it, I need to send the ECU in?

I mean this truck is fast, so I'm really curious about this