My gen3 vs trx comparison

[Vrrooom]

I'm not talking about which product is better. I think that really is up to the buyer, and its a good thing we have choices.

Do you really think that Ford has done right by their dealers and customers on the F150 Raptor production and deliveries? What about the Bronco production and deliveries? What about offering a Bronco Raptor when people that have placed orders in Q1 2021 still haven't received their regular Bronco? Now let's talk about commitments on Stellantis products, and who is waiting for their TRX, Wrangler, etc. after 12 months.

I'm sorry to go OT here. I really appreciated the post from the OP. Great comparison!

 

[Jake226]

Love my Gen 3

LOL The +ADM / -Discount price difference is because people really WANT to buy the Ford (because long-term success) where the Fiat (dodge) is just another lame attempt to copy success, so they’re trying to PERSUADE people to buy the same old mopar crap.

Another data point…. I looked up my values last night just for giggles due to the limited amount of time the 6.2 dodge engine will be produced and that you can get orders for the TRX at 10k under msrp.

My Gen 3 leadfoot 35” 801 was blue booking for a trade in of $94,200. I paid ~$79k (msrp).

Fully loaded TRX trade in $92,623. That’s pretty much sticker.

Demand seems substantially higher for the Raptor, at least currently. And you can’t argue with the product…loved my Gen 2, loving this Gen 3 also.

 

[DFS]

Love my Gen 3


Another data point…. I looked up my values last night just for giggles due to the limited amount of time the 6.2 dodge engine will be produced and that you can get orders for the TRX at 10k under msrp.

My Gen 3 leadfoot 35” 801 was blue booking for a trade in of $94,200. I paid ~$79k (msrp).

Fully loaded TRX trade in $92,623. That’s pretty much sticker.

Demand seems substantially higher for the Raptor, at least currently. And you can’t argue with the product…loved my Gen 2, loving this Gen 3 also.

demand is high, and supply is essentially non existent..

 

[Raptorial]

My brother and I both own identical base with no option TRXs and we just picked up a gen3 in SoCal for 10k over for him and I’m still waiting to get mine hopefully at a better price. Got a chance to drive drive it back home for 200 miles or so and here is what it boils down to.
Raptor is a more fun truck while driving slow and the trx definitely shines going fast. I personally hate the hemi engine/v8 sound when cruising below 2k rpm, but it’s a different story at WOT. The supercharger wine combined with the exhaust is intoxicating. The raptor sounds great in Baja mode at 4K plus rpm but it really sounds the same as gen2 at lower RPMs . So if you think the new exhaust is going to mitigate gen2 issues around town you re going to be disappointed.

Gas mileage is about 30% better in the raptor. It’s nothing to sneeze at if you are driving too much but also not a huge deal breaker considering the extra power. I’m averaging 10mpg around town cruising with the trx and getting about 13 in the city. Same goes for hwy driving.
Trx manages about 15 vs raptors 18 as measured in the same route today. You can certainly get to 8mpgs with a very heavy foot on the trx but raptor will also be about 10 in the same scenarios

Cold start. No comparison between the two.
Handling:
Raptor drives a bit smaller and that’s because trx is ~2 inches wider and 1 inch taller. Mine weight 6200 pounds. I know a fully loaded 37 weighs about 5950 so yes it doesn weigh more. Not sure how much this 35 weighs.
Both trucks are very confident in sharp turns and freeway ramps. Very planted with minimal body roll.

Interior design:
I think it’s a wash here with a slight edge to the trx. The CarPlay is full screen. And nicer compare to gen3. Maybe there is a way to fit the CarPlay in the entire screen in the raptor so I’ll play around to see if it’s doable.

Exterior.
This is the area that raptor absolutely shines. No comparison. It absolutely is a better looking truck from side and rear.
The trx bed sits about 4-5 inches higher than the raptor which makes it look awkward and high.

raptor is absolutely a more practical choice. If the truck is a daily driver I’d take the raptor hands down. But this doesn’t mean that it’s the most fun of the two because it certainly isn’t. But if the truck isn’t at wot more than 1% of time I’d be more than happy with the raptor considering the looks and gas savings.

Transmission:
Both trucks are fast shifting in manual mode. This is a definite improvement from gen2 as the lag almost made the paddles useless. I did notice some delay in shifiting at low rpms in sports mode as if the truck did not want to allow a shift at 2k rpm but don’t have enough seat time to figure out what’s going on.

Price:
We got the trxs at 10k below at 65k and the raptor for 10k above at 89 so certainly the price doesn’t play a factor. But both these trucks are too good damn expensive for what they are. No reason the gen3 nor the trx should be above 60-70k range when compared with other cars in this price range GLE 63 amg c63 amg, m4, m5, s7.

Steering The damn steeeing wheel needs to be kept 10 degrees off center to go straight with noticeable dead spot in the center. The truck will be dropped off at the dealer to figure out the off center issue but I thing the dead band is something that is designed in. I feel like the trx has a more precise feel with less deadband. Maybe it’s the mode the truck was in.


The only complain on the raptor besides the price is that I just wished it was a bit more different than the gen2. The difference is certainly not night and day as some would like to make you believe. It does ride nicer due to the rear coils. The ride is quiet good but I just wish the drivetrain had more to distinguish itself from the previous gen.

Nice. Agree with you on the looks. Raptor, hands down, is the better looking truck

 

[Teghogh]

Don’t care much about the fan boy arguments as the raptor steering wheels is still 10 degrees off center going straight and all the other issues we have seen here. My friends brandnew f250 has a death wobble after 15k miles. The comparison here is solely with respect to the feeling of each truck.

 

[PTYHRD]

A guy in the parking garage here at work just swapped his gen2 for one of them orange TRXs. Doesnt really add much to this but its been bugging me.

 

[Raptor911]

Great comparison.

I have owned the gen1-3 raptor and hands down, the GEN3 with the 5 link rear rides so much BETTER. And I swear it feels much faster. Maybe it has to do with a better rear suspension and its ability to put power down to the ground.

 

[spizike9]

…. and have you looked at the actual sales numbers Ford vs Fiat? Fiat can’t move anything without dropping the price whereas Ford sells everything they can get out the door of production. Just sayin’ Fiat is the same old crap in a new wrapper.

I think you mean Stelantis

 

[AxelR]

Don’t care much about the fan boy arguments as the raptor steering wheels is still 10 degrees off center going straight and all the other issues we have seen here. My friends brandnew f250 has a death wobble after 15k miles. The comparison here is solely with respect to the feeling of each truck.

I think the steering issue will be fixed by the dealer. Alignment or steering wheel centering. I don’t have that issue on mine.
I gotta say it makes for a bad*** combo right there. If I had any reason for it or space, I’d do the same.

 

[Teghogh]

I think the steering issue will be fixed by the dealer. Alignment or steering wheel centering. I don’t have that issue on mine.
I gotta say it makes for a bad*** combo right there. If I had any reason for it or space, I’d do the same.

Thanks. The value proposition is where the raptor kind of falls on its face. I don’t care how bad of a gas mileage you are getting there is no way to justify the 25k price difference with having 250 less horsepower. But the market is what it is and as long as it holds it doesn’t matter much. I have been offered 90k for trx by carmax I don’t think they would offer more than rhat on the raptor. So certainly in the eyes of the market they are priced closely. With that said if I’m given a choice of a base raptor at 67 and base trx at 77 with 10k off and I’m choosing one for daily drive for couple years it will be the base raptor.
As I said previously there is absolutel no reason for any of these trucks to compete with Porsche, Audi s , bmw M, and Benz amg in terms of price. Neither Ford or ram dealer provide a rental car for a 90k car, neither both have the feel fit and finish of the German cars. 991.2 base 911s had a 89k starting price.