Looking at used '19, what do I need to look out for?

[usnmustanger]

I'm going to look at and test drive a used '19 with 60K miles at a nearby Ford dealership. What specific items should I be on the look out for, inspect, whatever? Carfax is clean with the exception of a minor accident (cosmetic damage only to passenger side, pictures indicate it was repaired), and nothing else to indicate any major issues.
This will be my first Raptor.
TIA!

 

[Chris Mies]

I would negotiate having the cam phasers replaced if they haven't been already. Mine went out at 50K.

 

[smurfslayer]

Welcome to FRF

if it has a moon roof, pop it to vent then close, then move it rearward. if you hear a loud pop, it needs to be lubricated.

drive with windows down in 2H. listen for a chattering type sound or clatter(?). The IWE system can make this noise when not fully disengaging.

Otherwise, standard used vehicle stuff.

 

[ocbcwc]

Make sure there's engine oil in it! Seriously, recently got mine and it was extremely low.

I would try to negotiate the cam phasers right away. See if they will do it before you take it off the lot. Its been a nightmare to get it back into a dealer for it recently.

 

[usnmustanger]

Thanks for the replies so far, I really appreciate it.

Make sure there's engine oil in it! Seriously, recently got mine and it was extremely low.

I would try to negotiate the cam phasers right away. See if they will do it before you take it off the lot. Its been a nightmare to get it back into a dealer for it recently.

I'll definitely talk to them about this. I saw in some threads from earlier this year that parts were on a 2-3 month backorder, is that still the case? And if so, if I hear the tell-tale noise at startup only, is it still safe to drive while waiting on parts?

Related, I see the following 2 items on the Carfax report:

• Manufacturer Customer Satisfaction Program issued
  • Program #21N08 PCM REPROGRAM DUE TO ENGINE SHUDDER
• Manufacturer Customer Satisfaction Program issued
  • Program #21N03 CAM PHASERS

When these show up on the Carfax report, does that mean they were completed, or just that the CSP was issued for this VIN and not actually completed?

Thanks again for the replies!

 

[FordTechOne]

I would negotiate having the cam phasers replaced if they haven't been already. Mine went out at 50K.

They can’t replace a part under warranty or extended coverage unless it fails. If the truck doesn’t have a cold start rattle there is no need to to replace the phasers.

 

[FordTechOne]

Thanks for the replies so far, I really appreciate it.


I'll definitely talk to them about this. I saw in some threads from earlier this year that parts were on a 2-3 month backorder, is that still the case? And if so, if I hear the tell-tale noise at startup only, is it still safe to drive while waiting on parts?

Related, I see the following 2 items on the Carfax report:

• Manufacturer Customer Satisfaction Program issued
  • Program #21N08 PCM REPROGRAM DUE TO ENGINE SHUDDER
• Manufacturer Customer Satisfaction Program issued
  • Program #21N03 CAM PHASERS

When these show up on the Carfax report, does that mean they were completed, or just that the CSP was issued for this VIN and not actually completed?

Thanks again for the replies!

Those programs are extended coverage, no action is necessary. They indicate that the phaser recall was performed already, which was 21B10. If it doesn’t exhibit a rattle on cold start, it should be a non-issue.

 

[usnmustanger]

Those programs are extended coverage, no action is necessary. They indicate that the phaser recall was performed already, which was 21B10. If it doesn’t exhibit a rattle on cold start, it should be a non-issue.

That's good to know, thanks. As far as "cold start", how cold should then engine be? 1hr cold? 2hr cold? More? It matters, since I have a narrow time window to check the truck out today, and I wanna make sure I'm able to check for the cam phaser rattle.

 

[FordTechOne]

That's good to know, thanks. As far as "cold start", how cold should then engine be? 1hr cold? 2hr cold? More? It matters, since I have a narrow time window to check the truck out today, and I wanna make sure I'm able to check for the cam phaser rattle.

Preferably an overnight cold soak so that the oil can drain from the VCT units and they are at base timing when started. Regardless, at 60k they’re included in the extended coverage through 21N03.

 

[TomDirt]

I always look above the passenger seat for a pair of small holes in the ceiling about the size of a quarter. Those are made by high heels and indicate the seller knows how to party. That's all I got.