Had the chance to drive a gen 2

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smurfslayer

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Definitely a lot of posters triggered in their safe space here.
 

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8 pages later, gen2 trucks still shift like ass, and sound like ass.
 

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Hmmm...lets see...
  • A 6.2L NA "big block" V8 has more low-end grunt than a twin turbo 6cyl
  • A 10 speed automatic shifts more often than a 6 speed does
  • Some people like the V8
  • Some people like the V6
  • Some people like them both
  • Some people have thin skin
I don't think I need to read 8 pages of b1tching and whining to know that.

Personally I was a solid "gimme a V8 or ****" kind of guy my whole life until I used a 335i as my DD for a few years. While I am a solid fan of turbo sixes now, I could not feel whole without a V8 in my garage somewhere. That's what the classic Mustang is for (for me, just my life and opinion) the low-end (as in off-idle) torque plus the sound of a engine sucking instead of blowing...mmmmm yeah.

Edit to add: I think my biggest disappointment in the raptor as my off-road ride will be the seriously long 133 inch wheelbase.
 

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Hmmm...lets see...
  • A 6.2L NA "big block" V8 has more low-end grunt than a twin turbo 6cyl
  • A 10 speed automatic shifts more often than a 6 speed does
  • Some people like the V8
  • Some people like the V6
  • Some people like them both
  • Some people have thin skin
I don't think I need to read 8 pages of b1tching and whining to know that.

Personally I was a solid "gimme a V8 or ****" kind of guy my whole life until I used a 335i as my DD for a few years. While I am a solid fan of turbo sixes now, I could not feel whole without a V8 in my garage somewhere. That's what the classic Mustang is for (for me, just my life and opinion) the low-end (as in off-idle) torque plus the sound of a engine sucking instead of blowing...mmmmm yeah.

Edit to add: I think my biggest disappointment in the raptor as my off-road ride will be the seriously long 133 inch wheelbase.

except it doesn't have more low end grunt

just because it is a v8 doesn't automatically mean this

read a book
 

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except it doesn't have more low end grunt

just because it is a v8 doesn't automatically mean this

read a book
Low-end means low RPM, grunt refers to torque. You are thinking peak output and yeah that is a wash between the two. But at 1,250 RPM is it not.

I'll let the insult go, for me, life's too short to wanna spend it in the gutter.
 

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Low-end means low RPM, grunt refers to torque. You are thinking peak output and yeah that is a wash between the two. But at 1,250 RPM is it not.

I'll let the insult go, for me, life's too short to wanna spend it in the gutter.

Oh, I thought we were talking about usable torque, not just quoting the torque numbers basically at idle to simply make ourselves feel better. I got ya now.

I apologize for the book comment.
 
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