Gen 4 500hp dark horse V8

[FordTechOne]

Some of you…..are purposely obtuse. It’s silly.

What responses in this thread do you consider “obtuse”? I literally posted the engine’s stats…it’s clearly not suited for a truck application, never mind a Raptor. If they were to modify it for a truck application (manifolds, cams, heads, etc) to move peak torque lower in the power band, you lose top end power. At which point you end up with the 5.0 available in every other F-150, which is still gutless.

 

[Donmatteo]

Ford put a "ferrari" v10 in tons of vans and trucks. where used for industrial applications and even put it in a mustang

You proved my point exactly.

Big heavy duty engines are for truck and vans and industrial applications. The fact ford put one in a mustang PROTOTYPE should tell you it wasn't worth doing.

You are too stupid to argue with.

 

[smurfslayer]

Yes I agree.. any 5.0 isn't a good fit for a raptor unless it's got a power adder..

never suggested that it was. I've always been a 7.3L advocate, and as I've said many times that if you're going thru the work to put a godzilla in a raptor there's a very low chance you're putting a stock super duty engine.. you'd at least change cam and valve springs. But we'll continue to roll eyes and facepalm.. live your life

How much $$$ on top of the crate motor do you reckon it would take to have it “Raptor ready”? Not full on ‘let’s drag race this thing’ but a respectably solid output with reliability?

 

[FordTechOne]

Yes I agree.. any 5.0 isn't a good fit for a raptor unless it's got a power adder..

never suggested that it was. I've always been a 7.3L advocate, and as I've said many times that if you're going thru the work to put a godzilla in a raptor there's a very low chance you're putting a stock super duty engine.. you'd at least change cam and valve springs. But we'll continue to roll eyes and facepalm.. live your life

And it’s still a 600lb engine with less power and torque than a stock Raptor. We’ve been this over and over, weight is the enemy on a high performance truck, especially one designed to get airborne.

 

[downforce137]

...(sigh)....and again. There is a difference between a RACE application motor and a TRUCK motor.
Again. Say after me.

I HAVE A 7.3 RACE / ROAD TUNED 7.3 IN A KIT CAR.
I DO NOT HAVE A 7.3 TRUCK ENGINE TUNED TO HAUL IN MY KIT CAR.

(And I do love that Cobra. Love the livery and the side pipes.) Share some pics of the inside when you can.

Not my car, saw it in a 7.3L swap group I follow on FB.. I believe you can get them right from backdraft with 7.3L

1965 Shelby Cobra

Backdraft RT4B! Godzilla 7.3L V8, T56 Magnum 6-Speed, Wilwood, PS, GT Body

www.vanguardmotorsales.com

 

[downforce137]

How much $$$ on top of the crate motor do you reckon it would take to have it “Raptor ready”? Not full on ‘let’s drag race this thing’ but a respectably solid output with reliability?

If ford follows thru on megazilla, I don't think you'd need to spend much other than headers to make it work. Obviously the sky is the limit on what can be done.. I'd probably go used engine, cam swap, forged pistons/rods and run it.. until I could afford a supercharger..

I also do not believe that 150-200lbs makes a difference in front when many have several extra hundred lbs in the back.. spare tires, jack, tools, spares.. it's would still be relatively balanced

I wouldn't say this truck was designed to get airborne, it can yes, but it was designed to go fast across the desert in comfort..

 

[MORaptor1]

And it’s still a 600lb engine with less power and torque than a stock Raptor. We’ve been this over and over, weight is the enemy on a high performance truck, especially one designed to get airborne.

You sure about the 5.0 weight vs 3.5eb? And less power…..come on. This whole debate is academic. They are VERY competitive engines vs each other if ford wants it that way.

 

[BoostCreep]

You sure about the 5.0 weight vs 3.5eb? And less power…..come on. This whole debate is academic. They are VERY competitive engines vs each other if ford wants it that way.

He’s talking about Godzilla weight.

The 5.0 and 3.5 are not comparable as far as torque goes and they never will be if the 5.0 is n/a. Period.

 

[FordTechOne]

You sure about the 5.0 weight vs 3.5eb? And less power…..come on. This whole debate is academic. They are VERY competitive engines vs each other if ford wants it that way.

I’ve already explained it. “Less power”, and significantly less torque has already been proven. They’re not even close to competitive in a truck application. You can’t call something “academic” when you have no understanding of the background.

You’re assuming a lot of things that are incorrect. Would I rather have a 3.5 HO in a Mustang or the 5.0? I choose the 5.0 all day, its characteristics are perfect for its purpose. But would I want that 5.0 in a Raptor? No, because the 3.5 HO is better suited to the application. Not sure why it’s such a debate.

 

[ToadSmasher2K1]

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