Gen 3 Brake Upgrades?

[Luchh224]

EDIT: I see Brembo still offering front upgrades for 2023s ... I don't see anything being offered by Alcon, Baer, or Wilwood for 23s

Have a link? Brembos site is not being kind to me for some reason.

 

[flockofraptors]

2023 Ford F150 Raptor | Race Technologies | Brembo Official Partner

www.racetechnologies.com

 

[Nex]

I know this is an old thread, but is there a simple way to explain why there are no BBK upgrades that can be installed on the rears for the gen3? Some vendors quote the electronic brake, but I believe late year gen2 had the electronic brake, and rear kits were still available.

17/18 have cable parking brakes. The kits you referenced are for them. That's how I was able to install rear Alcons on my Gen 2.

 

[wogoRaptor]

There have been issues with front brake upgrades causing DTCs to set in the EBB due to the additional fluid volume of the larger multi-piston calipers. I suspect they may be encountering the same issues with the rear, in addition to the electric parking brake challenges.

I believe that is a correct assessment. I have a 2023 PP37 and put the Alcon kit on my front and had all kinds of codes thrown that related to the EBB. After 4 attempts to fix the problem I reverted back to the stock rotors and calipers and haven't had any problems since. Sucks after I was assured the new brakes would work and spent 4K.

 

[Evasive]

Phew, glad I waited on the Wilwood kit. I would not have been happy to drop that kind of cash only to be met with codes getting thrown.

 

[butts182]

I went with the Wilwoods and had them powder coated Code Orange.

 

[FordTech2]

I went with the Wilwoods and had them powder coated Code Orange.
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What is the Year, make and model and is it a raptor R of the truck in the picture. did any dtc's set when you installed these 6 piston wilwoods. i am interested in knowing because i have a customer with a 2025 Raptor R and another shop had installed wilwood brakes, 6-piston calipers and rotors at the customers request.

im getting

ABS C0021:7A

Brake Booster Performance: Fluid Leak Or Seal Failure

due to excessive fluid present because of the larger brakes, and so is sees a leak. we had an FSE from Ford come to our shop for the same thing happening in a Hennessy Venom F-150 due to larger upgraded calipers, brakes and rotors.

So if by chance you were able to install a front wilwood brake kit on a newer raptor with an EBB i would love to know how you were able to accomplish that. A Wilwood rep told us that a new EBB and re-flash is what has fixed this in other models. I dont know how a 2025 Raptor R with 252 miles would benefit from a new EBB when is already has a brand new EBB and the values inside of the abs module cannot be changed to accommodate the new Wilwood calipers, rotors and brake pads.

I also have a phone call with Wilwood tomorrow as per the customer request because they want to keep their upgraded brakes but want to know without a doubt that they will have to go back to stock for the codes to go away.