Ford Workers Contemplating STRIKE!!!

[Droid]

I guess what bugs me most about UAW types is the way the union PR reps act. Have seen interviews where a manufacturer will state its case quite well and logically, and then the union guy rebuts by stating that the manufacturer is "out to get them" and has "tons of money". The union guy will provide no meaningful figures, instead only quoting big gross values that have no meaning until you divide them up per capita. They tend to talk about their supporting employer like they're some comic book villain that is so twisted that they don't even have a meaningful motive (e.g. fame, money, women) but is instead out simply to "destroy the world".

I can't tell for sure if the manufacturer is right, it may be a function of the manufacturer having a good PR guy and the union putting forth the village idiot. Whatever the case, it's given me a very negative opinion of the UAW. That said, I have a very positive opinion about the Ford and GM employees who are required to belong to the UAW and have built every truck I've ever purchased. I just think they need better representation.

 

[Hockster]

Being in a "trade union" myself, I agree. Because you are in a collective bargaining agreement (union) does not give you a right to a ( imho "overpaid" ) job. These "unions" give all unions/trade unions a bad name.
Don't get me wrong I am for "trade unions", but sickened by "unions" (example UAW, Teamsters, players unions, etc) There is a world of difference between the two. Even though they get lumped together all the time.

Unions always go out of the way to screw the employer. And in many cases cause the employer to close shop and go else where.

Trade unions work with the employers to keep and gain market share and in the end hire more union employees.

UAW always screams buy American, drive American and keep America alive. While at the same time manufacturers are outsourcing more and more because of higher demanded cost UAW labor, pensions, healthcare, and agreements.

The UAW and other "unions" are shooting themselves in the foot. I don't feel sorry for them, they are creating this problem. How long do you think the manufactures are going to keep paying $50 per hour plus benefits for someone to bolt on tires?

(sorry, I'll get off my soap box now, return to your lives citizens)

Eh...They dont make $50 a hour they make about 22-26 a hour + benefits... considering that the top management make 300-500 times what they make it really dont seem like much. I dont think anyone is worth that kind of money... When I left Ford I my base pay was 78k a year and my immediate supervisor was making 147k a year + 2 lease vehicles with all maintenance and insurance paid by Ford. His supervisor made 225k a year with 3 lease vehicles all taken care of by Ford. her boss was in the 300k a year plus lease vehicles... No ******* way should anyone make that kind of money but, that is why the UAW demanded good money and benies for the workers.
Then people not involved with the auto companies scream why do they get what they do I dont get that they shouldnt get that... ****** up if ya ask me... No way should a manager 3 levels above me make 300k a year + benies... and no ******* way should Mulally make 20 million for what he did to supposedly turn the company around... All he did was what the employees for 50 years said that needed to be done. Stop the little empires in each division and commonize the platforms...

You think the union employees are ****** up for making what they do. I can tell you stories about where I worked that you would not believe, you would call me a liar and say I was full of shit but, I lived it and saw what the salaried management did to help destroy the company!!! heres one for ya...
I was hired into a garage that had 2 mechanics per hoist and there were 220 hoists in the experimental vehicles building. We had work groups with 40-60 guys in each. Every group had a clique of 10-12 guys and if you were in it you started at 8:00 am and left at 8:30 am headed to the bosses house to repair cars and trucks for him. You repaired them with stolen parts from Ford ordered by the parts coordinator and taken with a
company van to the bosses house... When the day was done the clique came back to work around 4:00 pm for quitting time at 4:30 pm... Then they would get 2-4 hours added to their time-card depending on how much overtime was requested by engineering... and this went on for at least 15 years till Ford got a little wise and broke down the little empires.

Maybe if we meet at some function I can really tell you some things!!! lol

 

[NY SCREW]

Eh...They dont make $50 a hour they make about 22-26 a hour + benefits... considering that the top management make 300-500 times what they make it really dont seem like much. I dont think anyone is worth that kind of money... When I left Ford I my base pay was 78k a year and my immediate supervisor was making 147k a year + 2 lease vehicles with all maintenance and insurance paid by Ford. His supervisor made 225k a year with 3 lease vehicles all taken care of by Ford. her boss was in the 300k a year plus lease vehicles... No ******* way should anyone make that kind of money but, that is why the UAW demanded good money and benies for the workers.
Then people not involved with the auto companies scream why do they get what they do I dont get that they shouldnt get that... ****** up if ya ask me... No way should a manager 3 levels above me make 300k a year + benies... and no ******* way should Mulally make 20 million for what he did to supposedly turn the company around... All he did was what the employees for 50 years said that needed to be done. Stop the little empires in each division and commonize the platforms...

You think the union employees are ****** up for making what they do. I can tell you stories about where I worked that you would not believe, you would call me a liar and say I was full of shit but, I lived it and saw what the salaried management did to help destroy the company!!! heres one for ya...
I was hired into a garage that had 2 mechanics per hoist and there were 220 hoists in the experimental vehicles building. We had work groups with 40-60 guys in each. Every group had a clique of 10-12 guys and if you were in it you started at 8:00 am and left at 8:30 am headed to the bosses house to repair cars and trucks for him. You repaired them with stolen parts from Ford ordered by the parts coordinator and taken with a
company van to the bosses house... When the day was done the clique came back to work around 4:00 pm for quitting time at 4:30 pm... Then they would get 2-4 hours added to their time-card depending on how much overtime was requested by engineering... and this went on for at least 15 years till Ford got a little wise and broke down the little empires.

Maybe if we meet at some function I can really tell you some things!!! lol

holy crap man you sound like a freaking ***** lol dam you could prob write a book that would get alota people in trouble ..........just wait till all of us that are waiting for 2012s get our trucks plz

 

[CineSLR]

There are a lot of things in this country that need to be updated... Unions are definitely one of them. There was a time where they were necessary but now they hold WAY too much power. My soon to be brother in law works for Boeing and he ******* about unions pretty much every time I see him. He has some pretty crazy stories too...