frogslinger
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MarkT....
I cited the GM case you used in your counterpoint in my point... actually it was most of my point. The financial arm of Ford is (was) a subsidiary, GM had a more tenuous relationship with their finance companies... so in the sense that if your kid takes out a loan then a member of your household is in debt...
True they were typically overnights, but that is beside the point. a division of Ford took TARP/Bailout. Not nearly as much as GM and Chrysler did... but having someone claim that Ford is the only motor company that did not take federal funds is like saying the McVeigh family never killed anyone because only one member ever blew up a building and that should not really count when you consider that hatfields and mccoys had way more killers. Sure you can spin it like that... if you are a good PR man... does not make it true or accurate...
Let us break it down to simplest terms...
Did any federal TARP/STIMULUS/BAILOUT/OBAMANOMICS/ITSBUSHESFAULT money go to Ford:
YUP
End of story...
I cited the GM case you used in your counterpoint in my point... actually it was most of my point. The financial arm of Ford is (was) a subsidiary, GM had a more tenuous relationship with their finance companies... so in the sense that if your kid takes out a loan then a member of your household is in debt...
True they were typically overnights, but that is beside the point. a division of Ford took TARP/Bailout. Not nearly as much as GM and Chrysler did... but having someone claim that Ford is the only motor company that did not take federal funds is like saying the McVeigh family never killed anyone because only one member ever blew up a building and that should not really count when you consider that hatfields and mccoys had way more killers. Sure you can spin it like that... if you are a good PR man... does not make it true or accurate...
Let us break it down to simplest terms...
Did any federal TARP/STIMULUS/BAILOUT/OBAMANOMICS/ITSBUSHESFAULT money go to Ford:
YUP
End of story...