Ford is warning dealers to play nice or lose....

[Tyler725]

I don’t like ADM, but I’m for a free market. Dealers wouldn’t be able to charge ADM if people weren’t paying it. All of us have bought cars below advertised sticker and most have bought cars well below invoice. That’s supply and demand. Used cars are getting crazy prices right now, and that’s to the seller’s advantage.

My issues either the dealers and Ford are more procedural. Everything should be more transparent and standardized once the price is negotiated (barring differences in state law).

Something like:
1. Establish a MyFord account. Build your order. Send your build to your dealer.
2. Negotiate the final price, all fees and taxes included with the dealer. (Trade negotiated now if they’re taking it now, or negotiated when the vehicle arrives with a clause for adjustment of taxes, etc.)
3. Written standardized order contract with signature of dealer and buyer disclosing the above with a standardized deposit.
4. Notification of confirmation that the order has been received by Ford and accepted (orders should not be permitted by the dealer and confirmation of the order should not be sent by Ford unless the dealer has allocation)
5. Weekly or biweekly updates from Ford via the MyFord account, advising you of the order status, delays and reasons for delays in real time. (All should be uploaded and visible in MyFord, including the order, deposit receipt, order contract and purchase contract.)
6. Vehicle inspection by customer, purchase contract completion and delivery to the customer.

agreed. Kind of the point i was going with.

I see everyone ticked off about ADMs but no one is upset their trade in is worth 10-20k more.

Once again; I would never pay ADM. But I have a friend who paid $20k over for his 37pkg because he didnt want to wait the 6+mos to get one. Call it stupid, I call it spending your money on what you want. Helps my resale.

 

[Tyler725]

Also, you have people buying them for msrp and flipping them for 10-15k over on resale market. What wrong with dealer saying they want that money instead...

As long as a dealer is transparent about it and upfront its a free market.

 

[CoronaRaptor]

Also, you have people buying them for msrp and flipping them for 10-15k over on resale market. What wrong with dealer saying they want that money instead...

As long as a dealer is transparent about it and upfront its a free market.

I agree 100%, just have heard of dealers ordering at msrp and then when the "buyer" goes to pick it up they give the excuse its not here or its 20k more now. Whether all those stories (at least 10 on here) are true or not, it is plausible that it has happened and I find that to be criminal and "bait".

 

[Tyler725]

I agree 100%, just have heard of dealers ordering at msrp and then when the "buyer" goes to pick it up they give the excuse its not here or its 20k more now. Whether all those stories (at least 10 on here) are true or not, it is plausible that it has happened and I find that to be criminal and "bait".

Ya thats BS if a dealer does that.

 

[Muchmore]

There is a saying, Toyota is all about engineering and build quality and the big three is all about marketing.

If this is a saying I've never heard it. AFAIK Toyota has NEVER been known for being engineering giants. Build quality I get it, reliability I get it. resale values I get it, but engineering goes to the Germans. I'm not trying to hijack my own thread about who has the best engineering team but that is the one part I disagree with.

 

[Grayson]

If this is a saying I've never heard it. AFAIK Toyota has NEVER been known for being engineering giants. Build quality I get it, reliability I get it. resale values I get it, but engineering goes to the Germans. I'm not trying to hijack my own thread about who has the best engineering team but that is the one part I disagree with.

Toyota understands this too, Mk5 Supra.

 

[GordoJay]

If this is a saying I've never heard it. AFAIK Toyota has NEVER been known for being engineering giants. Build quality I get it, reliability I get it. resale values I get it, but engineering goes to the Germans. I'm not trying to hijack my own thread about who has the best engineering team but that is the one part I disagree with.

Of the Japanese marques, Honda does the engineering. Of the Americans, I'd say Ford. Or Tesla.

If it weren't for hybrids, Toyota wouldn't even make the top half.

 

[Muchmore]

Toyota understands this too, Mk5 Supra.

Seriously.....

 

[smurfslayer]

engineering goes to the Germans

I almost spit my beer out that was so funny. I can still remember the total brake failure on the BMW on Susten pass...

BMW engineers. Entirely too impressed with their own abilities.

 

[Muchmore]

I almost spit my beer out that was so funny. I can still remember the total brake failure on the BMW on Susten pass...

BMW engineers. Entirely too impressed with their own abilities.

No one EVAR said German reliability! They can engineer the crap out of anything but it may never make it around the block!