Do you think I need to pay ‘mechanical breakdown agreement’?

[911 Crazy]

You should be mad at yourself. You signed the papers. Unfortuntely, you are going to own this no matter what. I would think you have little recourse. I get that the dealership completely defrauded you, but they did it with your permission and signatures. You'll end up paying $115k for a truck that is worth $70k at invoice and will only depreciate year by year. You have a wheel/tire package that shouldn't be on that truck in it's current form. I would be beyond irate that they already took the sawzall to your inner fenders without disclosing this to you.

You stated it didn't feel right and the numbers didn't match up. There are thousands of Raptors out there, you should have walked out the door immediately, secured your own financing to give yourself better leverage when heading to the next dealership.

I hope you love this Raptor because you are going to need to be in it for a long, long time to keep from being upside down on this loan.

Well said. I sure hope the OP doesn't buy real estate like he buys cars.

 

[GCATX]

You should be mad at yourself. You signed the papers. Unfortuntely, you are going to own this no matter what. I would think you have little recourse. I get that the dealership completely defrauded you, but they did it with your permission and signatures. You'll end up paying $115k for a truck that is worth $70k at invoice and will only depreciate year by year. You have a wheel/tire package that shouldn't be on that truck in it's current form. I would be beyond irate that they already took the sawzall to your inner fenders without disclosing this to you.

You stated it didn't feel right and the numbers didn't match up. There are thousands of Raptors out there, you should have walked out the door immediately, secured your own financing to give yourself better leverage when heading to the next dealership.

I hope you love this Raptor because you are going to need to be in it for a long, long time to keep from being upside down on this loan.

Maybe not. I believe some of the "warranty" purchases may be refundable, at least the part you don't use.

 

[GCATX]

4 hours, yikes! I've heard that about San Tan. That they wear you down by keeping you waiting and waiting and waiting.
I went to Sanderson and I was there for about an hour, that included the test drive and getting my trade in looked at. Finance guy offered all the extras, I said no, and he moved on quickly.
My sales guy was top notch. In case anyone else in the is looking to buy, PM me and I'll give you the details.

5 hours to get my deal done. I did have to drive an hour and a half to get there and they knew that. There was a lot of wringing of hands, gnashing of teeth, fat sales manager insults launched. The old "we misplaced your keys" even came up once when I threatened to leave. In the end, I got the deal we had agreed to over the phone.

Next time, I will bring a 6 pack.

 

[BroncoAZ]

5 hours to get my deal done. I did have to drive an hour and a half to get there and they knew that. There was a lot of wringing of hands, gnashing of teeth, fat sales manager insults launched. The old "we misplaced your keys" even came up once when I threatened to leave. In the end, I got the deal we had agreed to over the phone.

Next time, I will bring a 6 pack.

Last time they tried that I immediately called the cops. I didn’t end up buying a truck that day...

 

[911 Crazy]

Last time they tried that I immediately called the cops. I didn’t end up buying a truck that day...

And just what did you think they were going to do for you there, chief?

 

[BroncoAZ]

And just what did you think they were going to do for you there, chief?

I had my keys back shortly after the cop arrived, the dealer had been dicking me around with “lost keys” or “lost truck” when I wanted to leave. The responding officer told me it wasn’t the first time he’d responded to a call from a customer at that particular dealership, he saw it my way. It was better than option B which involved my concealed handgun.

 

[CoronaRaptor]

I had my keys back shortly after the cop arrived, the dealer had been dicking me around with “lost keys” or “lost truck” when I wanted to leave. The responding officer told me it wasn’t the first time he’d responded to a call from a customer at that particular dealership, he saw it my way. It was better than option B which involved my concealed handgun.

I had the same scam happen to me years ago, but i just yelled in the showroom, "give me my ******* keys back now". They some how showed up pretty quick.

 

[911 Crazy]

I had my keys back shortly after the cop arrived, the dealer had been dicking me around with “lost keys” or “lost truck” when I wanted to leave. The responding officer told me it wasn’t the first time he’d responded to a call from a customer at that particular dealership, he saw it my way. It was better than option B which involved my concealed handgun.

I don't understand how or why the police would even get involved. Sounds like a legal issue to me. And BTW, It's police and officer. Not cops and cop.

 

[Beinkounter]

On the bright side, you made a significant contribution to the local economy! So you can at least feel good about that. But my advice would be, in the future before you make a large purchase, take someone with you.

 

[TXRaptor]

You should be mad at yourself. You signed the papers. Unfortuntely, you are going to own this no matter what. I would think you have little recourse. I get that the dealership completely defrauded you, but they did it with your permission and signatures. You'll end up paying $115k for a truck that is worth $70k at invoice and will only depreciate year by year. You have a wheel/tire package that shouldn't be on that truck in it's current form. I would be beyond irate that they already took the sawzall to your inner fenders without disclosing this to you.

You stated it didn't feel right and the numbers didn't match up. There are thousands of Raptors out there, you should have walked out the door immediately, secured your own financing to give yourself better leverage when heading to the next dealership.

I hope you love this Raptor because you are going to need to be in it for a long, long time to keep from being upside down on this loan.

I agree with you 100%. He did this to himself, so he needs to own up to the fact he was taken to the cleaners. If he signed everything and it has been more than three days, his options for recourse are pretty much gone.

I have bought more than a dozen new vehicles over the years from various dealers without talking to anyone on the phone or stepping foot into the dealer until the day I buy it. If I need to test drive a vehicle first, I stop by a random dealership to get the "do I really want this car" out of the way prior to starting my search.

Once I zero in a couple of acceptable options, I do my negotiating over email with each dealers "Internet Department" at the same time. This allows me to compare exact pricing and have everything they promised in writing. It might take a couple of days, to a couple of weeks, but I am never in a hurry. I bring my final email thread to the dealership with the best offer and if there are problems with what was promised, I hand them the emails and say you either honor the deal or I walk. I have never had to walk out without making the deal. When I was buying my Gen 2 in 2018, the dealer called me as I was walking out the door to pick it up to say it had been sold, but they had "another one". I told them no thanks because I felt the shenanigans were starting. Instead, I went to the second dealer on my list and bought it the same day for the promised amount.

I tell the finance guy, I am a bottom dollar buyer and all I want is the vehicle, nothing more. They sometimes try to play the add-on games, but quickly realize they are wasting their time, so they get down to business fairly early in the process. I usually spend less than an hour in a dealership from the moment I walk-in, to the time I am driving home. If things go smoothly, I give them top rankings on their surveys, even though I spend as little time as possible with each person along the way.

Knowing exactly what you want beforehand and doing your homework with several competing dealers is the only way to get the bottom dollar price on a new vehicle in today's hyper-connected world. I got my 2018 for $1500 under MSRP, when most dealers were still charging AMD prices. By today's standards I got ripped off, but I was able to secure the best deal possible at the time.