Decisions decisions!

[drbubbles84]

I’d be laughing like hell if some how Ford turned the Baja world upside down and came out with the Raptor R for what may be a very good price and undercut the TRX. Something like they just done with the Lightning to competitors. The deciding factor here would be, if they wanted the R limited production or willing to make as many as they can sell.

Would be nice, but don't see how they can, unless they think the supercharged V8 is only a $5k premium over the V6.

 

[Raptorius]

Would be nice, but don't see how they can, unless they think the supercharged V8 is only a $5k premium over the V6.

...and then who would buy the V6?

 

[smurfslayer]

I got a 21 trx ordered. Of course with a nice black, not blue, not Smurf blue interior, but a beautiful black interior with red stitching

I approve ;-)

Makes me feel Great doing so too!

As it should.

My concern with TRX and vaporware v8 Rap is that with the intro of the Lightning and Ford aggressively marketing it, I think the next Rap may be electric. I’m not sure if they can make it work for distance, but... the power delivery is going to be very disheartening to ICE fans.

Think about it - if the $40k Lightning takes your lunch in the 1/4 mile, how much respect is left for the 80-120k super truck? How many of us are really using the Rap for what it was really meant for?

The Raptor is built around a reputation for being an off road truck you can drive on the street, the TRX is not a bad effort and has huge motor cred. or it did until the Lightning was announced.
If Ford can shoehorn a bigger, badder pair of electric motors in the Rap, give us a touch more range potential ...

 

[drbubbles84]

I approve ;-)

As it should.

My concern with TRX and vaporware v8 Rap is that with the intro of the Lightning and Ford aggressively marketing it, I think the next Rap may be electric. I’m not sure if they can make it work for distance, but... the power delivery is going to be very disheartening to ICE fans.

Think about it - if the $40k Lightning takes your lunch in the 1/4 mile, how much respect is left for the 80-120k super truck? How many of us are really using the Rap for what it was really meant for?

The Raptor is built around a reputation for being an off road truck you can drive on the street, the TRX is not a bad effort and has huge motor cred. or it did until the Lightning was announced.
If Ford can shoehorn a bigger, badder pair of electric motors in the Rap, give us a touch more range potential ...

Yeah I've been thinking about this as well (Cybertruck)... I'm definitely mourning the decline of internal combustion. And I don't know why!

 

[K223]

I approve ;-)

As it should.

My concern with TRX and vaporware v8 Rap is that with the intro of the Lightning and Ford aggressively marketing it, I think the next Rap may be electric. I’m not sure if they can make it work for distance, but... the power delivery is going to be very disheartening to ICE fans.

Think about it - if the $40k Lightning takes your lunch in the 1/4 mile, how much respect is left for the 80-120k super truck? How many of us are really using the Rap for what it was really meant for?

The Raptor is built around a reputation for being an off road truck you can drive on the street, the TRX is not a bad effort and has huge motor cred. or it did until the Lightning was announced.
If Ford can shoehorn a bigger, badder pair of electric motors in the Rap, give us a touch more range potential ...

You are kind of hitting it on the head. Unless you want hardcore off roading capability, the 40k Lightning work truck is going to clean your clock on road. Sure the Raptor has it off road, but while your paying all that money for the Rap or TRX, something deep down may not sit right with this picture. Not to mention if 4-5 gas becomes the new norm and your paying all this money into a truck that’s now just an off road speciality as it was meant to be. At this point range still has importance and ICE has that. One day battery tech will get closer. Maybe not at the moment but things to look at in the future with BEV trucks coming.

 

[Chainsaw]

If you think you're getting a Raptor this year, you're dreaming.

It's not just chips. Every commodity is more expensive and facing unprecedented demand.

Ford dealers are empty, the plants are idling, and unfinished F150s sit in lots. And somehow Raptors are magically going to start rolling out of the factory in July? No way.

 

[Chainsaw]

I’d be laughing like hell if some how Ford turned the Baja world upside down and came out with the Raptor R for what may be a very good price and undercut the TRX. Something like they just done with the Lightning to competitors. The deciding factor here would be, if they wanted the R limited production or willing to make as many as they can sell.

Not a chance.

There is only about $10k of room between a Gen 3 and a TRX (though TRX prices may rise significantly shortly with change to MY22).

As for the Lightning - a lot can happen between now and release. Don't bet on any pricing you're hearing now being intact at launch.

 

[Big Blue]

Get both, problem solved!

 

[smurfslayer]

Get both, problem solved!

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Any word on whether this option is compatible with wife 1.0?

 

[melvimbe]

Not a chance.

There is only about $10k of room between a Gen 3 and a TRX (though TRX prices may rise significantly shortly with change to MY22).

As for the Lightning - a lot can happen between now and release. Don't bet on any pricing you're hearing now being intact at launch.

The Lightning is priced low for a stripped down commercial version that really isn't comparable to other EVs out there. I'm guessing Ford can get away with this by making profit through volume sales in a fleet market that the upstart EV companies don't have established. But if you look at the more lux version of the Lightning the pricing is right there.

The Raptor won't get the same treatment though, since it's obviously not a fleet vehicle. I don't think Ford wants to be undercut on the base price though. They're happy to set a base price on a vehicle no one will buy as long as the options bring in the profits. But even then, Ford knows that such tricks don't work on everyone and they need to match or better features per price as well.